After reading Margy's letter, I suggest that all future Board meetings be held in one location..Salem, Mass. the ambience is right, the "Secret Society" could have their closed session, then press charges, have a trial without the person being there and then a burning at the stake of the accused, all in one day..how delightful! First the show site chair, now the recording sec...hmmm..does anyone see a pattern here? Christine hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Steve and Christine Grainger WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM > [Original Message] > From: Margery Golant <mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx>; <LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx>; Penny & Bill <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 8/6/2007 11:04:13 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Knowledge is always important > > > A number of people have contacted me privately lately to ask what on earth > is going on. They have heard rumors about "charges" and about a demand for > my resignation, thought it extremely odd. I agree completely that it is > very strange. Rather than try to explain piecemeal, it seems that what > makes the most sense, and what I have been asked by a number of people to > do, is to post my responses to the charges. I have no problem with this. I > have done nothing wrong, and have worked very hard to do what is right, and > to do my best to explain to others what is right. "Charges" are completely > inappropriate, and I feel it essential that the membership understand what > is really going on here. It really is time you knew what has been > happening. > > I have became very concerned at the increasing secrecy, the increasing > hostility, the increasing paranoia, on the GSDCA Board, toward anyone who > disagrees with certain people, which is inappropriate and excessive. A fair > amount of the time, the secrets are even kept from the Board members, > although there is a small group who sticks together and is in the know. I > was bothered by this trend, expressed my objections, have voted against > every closed session where I had the opportunity to vote, objected to closed > sessions. But, they got closed anyway, and there were numerous times where > we were not even asked, they just closed the doors. > > There has been a game going on for almost 2 years now, I have been the > football. The object has been to continue to increase the pressure and to > tighten the screws on me as Recording Secretary, making the job more and > more time consuming, more and more difficult, until I gave in in disgust and > quit. After every meeting's Minutes were done, the game would start. A > small group of people would claim that things that were in the Minutes were > wrong, that they never happened (even though they were as plain as day on > the recording). They would also insist that things did happen that did not > (even though the lack of them was likewise plain on the recording). We > would go around and around, back and forth, wasting time, meeting after > meeting. Then they would tell anyone who would listen that I was "slow" to > get the Minutes done. In other words, sabotage. > > I was not at the July Board meeting. Within a couple of weeks immediately > prior to the meeting, I suffered the loss of two of my dogs. Virtually > immediately prior to the Board meeting, my one remaining dog, my special > one, suddenly started showing acute and severe neurological signs which > terrified me, and to which I immediately began a quest for a solution. The > entire Board knew about this. I was not willing to forsake that urgent > effort to travel to Salt Lake City for a Board meeting, and only found out > at the very last minute that I would have to go in the opposite direction. > However, as a precaution I arranged for highly competent coverage, in case I > could not be there. So, when I was not there, apparently they had yet > another closed session, at which the target was yours truly. As someone whom > I very much respect said earlier today "I always thought this club was a > family but not anymore. We all have problems in our life at one time or > another and we need to support each other not turn on each other." When > some say "It's about the dogs", they mean it. Others don't. > I detest the secrecy, the closed doors. Open dialogue, inclusion, democracy > are what this Club needs, not whispers behind closed doors, and warnings to > Board members to tell no one, and NEVER to post it to the List. Those same > people hate the List - it is a means of communication and truth, and they > hate communication and use a fabric of deception to control others, so truth > is their enemy. They are not above using it when it suits their purposes, > but I have nothing to hide, have done nothing wrong, have no reason to want > yet another secret festering mess. So, with all that said, I have included > below my response to the email I received. The email contained a demand for > my resignation, and if I did not resign, scheduled a "hearing" on "charges" > to which I responded. The response has been sent to all Board members by my > attorney, Evan Ginsburg), and in that document are a number of names, and > reference to things that occurred in closed session. I have omitted those > details from the posting here, even though this is a private email List, and > therefore the material I post is not public, but I am willing to tell you > one on one if you want to know and if it is not obvious, who are the people > who have been working to persecute me. > > Peggy is right - it is not hard to see what is going on here, or who are the > people pushing the levers. Just look around, do the math. > > My response to the Board follows. Please forgive the blanks in a few places > - it will still make sense without those details, and it is not hard to > figure out what is missing. > > Margy Golant > > > > > > To all GSDCA Officers and Board Members: > > > > I received from William Pfeiffer an email with an unsigned Word file > attachment with a number of accusations and asking me to resign, which > asserts that it was signed by 17 Board members and that it had also been > mailed and faxed to me. I have not received a signed copy from any source, > nothing has been either mailed or faxed to me, nor am I clear on why this > was sent by the GSDCA Treasurer, as it is not in any way related to Club > finances. > > > > However, since the document contains six "charges" and numerous inaccuracies > and appears to misconstrue a number of issues, in an effort to clarify and > to correct the misunderstandings, my response is below. Please note that I > felt it necessary to protect myself and the Club and have asked to be > represented in this matter; my attorney in connection with this matter is > Evan Ginsburg. Evan should be copied on all communications relating hereto, > and in the event the GSDCA does proceed with a "hearing" as asserted in the > document attached to the email, notwithstanding the fact that such a hearing > is improperly constituted, Evan will attend as my representative. > > > > To help everyone understand my position, since no notice of the closed > session was given, nor was I there, I have responded to the allegations to > allow everyone time to consider the complaints, and the responses. > > > > 1 - The document maintains that "Without Board knowledge or approval, you > attempted to change the Terms and Conditions settlement agreement in the > Hunte litigation case which nearly resulted in the rejection of the Board > approved settlement." > > > > RESPONSE: The first part of this sentence is factually incorrect, the second > part is untrue and without foundation. At the Board meeting in Houston, the > GSDCA President Lew Bunch informed the Board: > _______________________________________________(Deleted as this refers to > something that occurred in closed session). Prior to the closed session, > Board members were asked by Lew to sign the agreement without any board > approval or discussion, the evening prior to the meeting in the hotel bar. > The discussion explanation did not occur. As a Club Officer, it is curious > that, although a number of Officers and Board members had already signed the > document, I had never seen it at all at that point, it ____________________ > (Deleted as this refers to something that occurred in to closed session), > and had no opportunity to read it through until approximately a week or more > later. I don't believe any of the Board members had a chance to read it > through before it was signed and accepted by the Board on behalf of the > members. > > > > The language contained in the document I was finally given more than a week > after the April Board meeting contained a number of factual inaccuracies and > statements represented in it as facts which were not ever established as > facts. In addition, the document contained a variety of representations and > promises which were unenforceable and which, if anyone were to attempt to > enforce them, would place such a person in a position of violating the > Constitutional rights of others, including GSDCA members. As an attorney, I > was well aware of these infirmities in the agreement, however at the same > time, wanted to be supportive of the obvious desire of the Board to enter > into an agreement that would conclude the Hunte matter, and to participate > so long as I was not a party to the untrue statements or violation of the > rights of our membership and others. > > > > I discussed this difficulty with the GSDCA attorney and with private > counsel, and was advised to modify anything I would sign to the extent > necessary to render the document acceptable to me. That is what I did, and > it was done solely on my own behalf. I would have liked to bring this to the > attention of the board, but ________(name omitted) did not allow that > opportunity, and in fact I was being continually pressed for my response, so > I had to do what was necessary for my own protection. It did not in any > way modify what already had been agreed to by others, and did not require > the approval or knowledge of anyone else, as it was personal to me. > > > > Furthermore, I have had extensive discussions with the GSDCA attorney who > handled the negotiations and conclusion of the agreement, who indicated that > she understood that the modifications pertained to me only, that Hunte and > his attorney also understood that to be true, that the Agreement was made > whether or not I made changes or executed the document. I do not believe > that there was any time during which my actions "nearly resulted in the > rejection of the Board-approved settlement" as stated in the letter from > Bill, and proof thereof is requested. There was nothing to reject, since > Hunte had signed it, and a majority of the Board had signed it. As a matter > of law, an agreement existed, whether I changed it or not prior to signing > it. This accusation is false. Further, the allegations, even if true, > would not form a basis for any action against me. The Board had never > authorized anyone to negotiate an agreement on its behalf with Hunte, nor > did it ever ratify any such actions or even discuss the terms they had > agreed to. They were literally told to sign it, with the bald promise that > "signing this will get this over with", without any consideration or > opportunity for reflection. This is something done by a few officers > without the approval or agreement of the board. > > > > 2 - The document maintains "The minutes from the April 28-29, 2007 Board > meeting were not delivered to the Board per our bylaws within 30 days > following the meeting. In addition, the minutes did not accurately reflect > what occurred at the meeting and needed extensive revision. The request for > an audio recording of the meeting was not delivered after several requests." > > > > > RESPONSE: This is untrue. The Minutes were sent out by me on 5/27/07, which > is within 30 days after the conclusion of the April Board meeting. When I > learned on 5/31/07 that there had been an email issue, I resent the draft on > that same day. If in fact the draft was not received until 5/31/07, (32 > days after the Meeting), such deviation is de minimis and one with > considerable GSDCA precedent. I am not even sure why it would be brought up, > other than to convince the board that charges should be brought. > _______(name omitted) know well how timely these minutes have been given, > and you all know that I was working extensively to create a web-based area > to review and comment on the Minutes, since I discussed this at length in my > oral report at the April meeting, and that it was going to be used to > present them to you in May. This accusation is made in bad faith. Perhaps > you don't know that ________(name omitted) took it upon himself to interfere > just prior to the live upload and review area going live in mid-May 2007, > and to inform John Ayotte and me to cease working on it. > > > > The Minutes draft I submitted did and do accurately reflect what occurred at > the Board meeting. I have no knowledge of what subsequent revisions were > made by anyone, despite my position as Recording Secretary. However, there > were a number of Officers and Board members, mostly _______, _________, > _________ and __________(names omitted), who took issue with the fact that I > included in the Minutes the Report of the Review Marketing Committee, which > contained a proposal for an Internet e-zine which had been inappropriately > rejected by an individual Officer / Committee Chair, ________(name omitted), > without Board approval prior to the Board meeting. The report was submitted > by the Review Marketig Committee Co-chairs, and so included in the Minutes, > as has been the GSDCA practice for many years, and has been my practice > since becoming Recording Secretary. Numerous sets of Minutes were approved > consistent therewith. After the "controversy" regarding this inclusion > emerged, I indicated to all Board members that, aside from the policy issue > which this represented, I had not received any substantive changes for > another draft. There was an email debate which ensued regarding the policy > of including reports from Committee Chairs in the Minutes, and eventually, > on 6/4 Lew advised us all not to bother discussing this in the interim, and > that the issues which had arisen would be discussed at the upcoming Board > meeting. I suspect that events will ultimately disclose that the "numerous > changes" entail a deletion of that, and perhaps other Committee reports, and > other modifications not supported by the record. > > > > I did not receive, nor did I reject, any requests for an audio recording, > other than something about bringing the recording to the Board meeting > "dumped to tape". I have no idea what that means, nor do I have any ability > to "dump to tape". There is no obligation on my part to provide recordings > to anyone, although I have voluntarily brought them to a number of Board > meetings and would have brought it to the July meeting had I been able to be > there, where it could have been forwarded and rewound just as on tape. > However, as I told you in my April report, I had worked with John Ayotte to > find a way to upload the entire audio recording to the web site, where you > could all hear it and utilize it in your determination of the accuracy of > the Minutes, and ultimately to make it available to the Membership to > provide them a way to attend Board meetings without leaving home, > "virtually". As previously indicated, this process was ready to go, and the > material would have been available to you all in mid-May had not > _________(name omitted) taken it upon himself without discussion with the > Board to interfere. > > > > It is curious that ________(name omitted) told the Internet Co-chairs Bill > and John with whom I had been working on the project not to spend any > further time to make this happen, although the work was virtually all done, > while apparently now claiming that he had needed to hear the recording which > I should somehow "dump to tape". Had the sound files been uploaded as I had > proposed and intended, the audio recording would have been easily available > to all Board members. This is still available, but I understand now > __________(name omitted) does not want it done, although there are no > legitimate technical impediments. As an alternative, as I mentioned at the > meeting, as a temporary measure I had stood ready to post it to my own web > site, to facilitate access to you all. Any discussions that are questioned > could be answered by listening to the recordings, as I have had to do each > time my minutes were questioned. This accusation is also made in bad > faith, since if _______ (name omitted) had really wanted to hear the > recording, the would not have gone out of his way to interfere with the > almost complete project done specifically to make the recordings available > to you all. Further, the allegations, even if true, would not form a basis > for any action against me. > > > > 3 - The document maintains: "The minutes from Board meetings for the past > two years have not been timely delivered to members as directed by the > bylaws with any consistency." > > > > RESPONSE: This is incorrect. Further, the allegations, even if true, > would not form a basis for any action against me. During the past two > years, numerous Board members and Committee Chairs have, despite many > requests from me to do so, repeatedly failed to provide their reports > timely, or at all, which are necessary ingredients in creation of the > Minutes, rendering the production of complete, accurate and timely Minutes > difficult or impossible. Board members have submitted proposed additions, > modifications and corrections to drafts late, which inevitably and > significantly delays the production of the next draft. I have done the best > I could with the restrictions of not getting reports, or objections to what > was said or not said, and the requirement of going back and listening to > over 20 hours of tapes to find out what is correct, and to make sense of out > chaotic meetings, where Agendas are not followed, where people speak without > being clearly identified, where despite my many requests, motions are voted > upon without being reduced to writing and read just prior to the votes, > (sometimes resulting in the necessity for re-votes because the Board did not > even understand what they were voting upon), the names of those voting for > and against are not necessarily clearly spoken out, multiple Board members > are speaking across the table to one another, all at the same time. I have > also done the best I can with a position which was difficult when I first > took it on, and to which, during the past two years, those who have wanted > to force me off the Board have continuously devoted efforts to make it more > laborious, more time intensive and more difficult, making bad-faith attacks > on accuracy of material the accuracy of which was clearly supported by the > record, working to thwart my efforts to utilize technology to improve upon > the accuracy and efficiency of the position, on the quality of the result, > and on the accessibility of Board meeting materials to the Membership by > giving them access to virtual "real-time" recordings of the live meetings. > I was targeted, to provide a contrived basis to claim that I am not doing > the job properly.. > > > > 4 - The document maintains: "At the July Board meeting, the first notice of > your absence was just before the meeting. No officer was notified of your > absence. This absence represents the third meeting that you have not been > in attendance." > > > > RESPONSE: This is incorrect. Since the inception of my current term, I was > present at Board meetings in Beaumont Texas, Columbus, Ohio, St. Louis, MO, > Memphis, TN and Houston, TX. I was not present at a meeting in April 2006 > in Missouri due to a medical emergency involving my 90 year old mother, and > I was not present at this most recent meeting in Salt Lake City, Utah due to > a serious and late-breaking emergency development involving a serious > medical problem suffered by my dog, having just lost two other dogs. > > > > When I first suspected there might become a problem attending, as a > precaution, I made arrangements with an experienced Board member, > ____________ (name omitted), who I knew would be attending and who takes > careful and thorough notes to provide coverage if ultimately necessary, and > indicated that I stood ready and willing to do the Minutes from her notes if > I could not attend. Further, the allegations, even if true, would not form > a basis for any action against me. I had no duty to notify any officer of > my absence, nor is there any specific requirement established by the By-laws > for attendance. I am told that there had at one time been such a > requirement, but that it was deleted long ago. I believe it was changed > when a valued member was unable to attend due to health reasons. If the > board wants to develop a new limitation on attendance, it has to be in the > by-laws, to date that has not been done, and there are numerous reasons why > it should not be done. It is interesting how the rules are subject to > change, depending on whether the desire is to include someone or to exclude > them as a target, as in my case. > > > > 5 - The document maintains that there was "Failure to respond to numerous > requests over the past three years to provide equipment identification > serial numbers for Club property." > > > > RESPONSE: This is untrue. I provided such identifying information in > December 2005. Further, the allegations, even if true, would not form a > basis for any action against me. I sent those documents to Evan and asked > that he send them on to all the board members, since he expressed a need to > send a letter anyway as to his position as my attorney. He will send copies > of what I send in December of 2005, and evidently forgotten by Lew. > > > > 6 - The document enumerates a "Failure to perform the duties as outlined in > the bylaws and thereby causing other officers to fulfill your duties and > responsibilities. In addition, belligerent behavior on your part to other > officers with regard to the refusal of performing the duties of your > office." > > > > RESPONSE: I am unable to respond to this, having no idea of the specifics > of what is alleged. I am aware that at times I have asked Lew to do things > such as read a motion back before it is voted on, and he refused to do that. > I also have had to argue with _______ (name omitted) and others as to what > the law is, and to try to protect the GSDCA with my thoughts and positions. > That may be thought of as being belligerent, but that is neither a violation > of the by-laws or anything that should be the subject of "charges". As a > matter of fact, my passion is nothing other than an attempt to represent the > members of this Club properly and to protect this club and the board from > potential liability. We have had two attorneys on the board, myself and > Kris. Kris has had to resign as legal affairs head because the board will > not follow her advise. I have had to argue at times with what is being done, > for the same reasons. > > > > I have not resigned, nor do I intend to do so. I know that my presence in > the position of Recording Secretary has added substantial value for the > GSDCA membership. I have, despite continual harassment during the past two > years, produced fair and accurate Minutes, have refused to include things > that should not have been included, have refused to delete things that > should not have been deleted, and I have refused to change things to appear > otherwise than what occurred at the meetings. In this process, I have > withstood insults, sarcasm and belligerence. I have provided legal advice > and expressed numerous concerns about the repeated occurrences of illegal > and improper action and procedure by the Board, and have spoke out about it > to the membership on several occasions. Due to my very busy existence and > to the extremely unpleasant and offensive conduct directed at me by several > on the Board, I had given serious consideration early in the year to not > standing for re-election. However, I was convinced to reconsider and to run > again by GSDCA members' persistent request that I do, that by being on the > Board, I am an asset to the membership. I have not committed any acts which > would provide a basis for any "charges" against me, nor is there any proper > factual or procedural foundation for charges against me. Since the members > of this club have elected me to act on their behalf, I have and will > continue to do so. > > > > Please note that I am a duly elected Officer of the GSDCA, and that as such, > there is no basis for any members of this board, or even the entire board to > remove me. The board does not have the power or authority to remove me. > > > > I have been singled out as the recipient of harassment and discrimination > mostly by ______, _______, _______ and ________ because I have acted > independently and in accordance with the dictates of my conscience and of > the law, which I strongly believe to be in the best interest of the GSDCA as > opposed to my personal benefit, or to that of any Officer or Board member. > > > > Please also note that I have consistently explained to this Board and > Officers of the GSDCA how important it is to act in accordance with the > By-laws. I have often stated that there have been unfortunately many > occasions during the past two years when that has not been the case. I have > objected to unwarranted and inappropriate secrecy and improvident and > unlawful closed door sessions. But, _________ (name omitted) continues to > call for them. I have explained the danger of overusing of the Executive > Committee, and although ___________ (name omitted) pointed it out and > indicated that it should not occur, a small group has tried to run the > business of the club. I have had serious concerns, which I expressed to you > all, that the Club was not being run in accordance with the By-laws, that > correct procedure was not being followed at the meetings, that Officers and > Committee Chairs were usurping functions without authority, While there > are many more, several examples come immediately to mind: In my own case, I > found __________ (name omitted) to be arranging recordings of telephonic > meetings, directing the conference call company hosting Board conference > calls not to deal with me to make recording arrangements and not instructing > them to send the recording which they produced to me. This was highly > problematic, but when I asked _________ (name omitted) to intervene, he > ignored the issue. ___________ (name omitted) also, inappropriately and > without authority, involved himself in communications with Hunte's attorney, > which had very serious repercussions. I was seriously concerned about > Budget and Finance issues, and when I asked questions, received sarcastic > answers without ever any further explanation. I expressed serious concerns > about why the Budget & Finance Committee was referred the proposal of the > Review Marketing Committee for an e-Zine instead of the Board, and worse > yet, why it took it upon itself to reject the proposal None of the > objections I made or arguments I raised were personal, although personal and > sarcastic responses were made to me. On the contrary, they were objections > to the procedures, or lack of procedures utilized, and to the fact that the > Board was not following the rules that govern the Club. Interestingly, no > charges were filed or action taken to address any of these improprieties. > > > > Failure to adhere to the By-laws, and to act in accordance with your > personal objectives and interests, is a breach of your duties to the GSDCA > and exposes you to significant liability. Under the circumstances, it is > humorous that I of all people am the one accused of failing to foll the > By-laws, when the exact opposite was true: many on the Board were not > following the By-laws, a fact which I continued to point out, and which > clearly caused some on the Board to plot to get rid of me. When that did > not work, there was an attempt to try to set me up as a "mole" with respect > to the Hunte matter, alleging somehow that I was the source of a leak of > "secret" information, something I have not done, even telling Hunte's > attorney that I leaked secret information. This allegation is totally > untrue, and interestingly, while the story continues to be spread, it is > only done behind my back by those Board members, never out in the open. > The most interesting part is that I do know who really did do it, can and > will prove it, yet that person is one of those pointing fingers at me, > clearly as a tactical ploy to keep anyone from realizing who really did do > it. I was told by our attorney that Mr. Hunte wanted me thrown off the > board for giving out that information. In fact the party who gave it out, > knowing all this, has failed to step forward to change the wrongful > information, and instead participates actively in the efforts to oust me. > > > > This current action against me is an example of such a violation of the > obligations and duties of the Board. To ask for the resignation after a > secret meeting, violates all the basis of our club by-laws, and must be > carefully considered. I have asked that my attorney notify the president of > the danger this sort of action presents. The club elects the board, and the > board serves the members. No member or not board may overturn the election > process. Furthermore, none of the "charges" enumerated in the document > emailed to me, even if true, constitute any basis for Board action, or > hearing, and therefore the pursuit thereof provide another example of the > Board violating the By-laws, and targeting me > > > > I do not wish to fight with the board, but I will not ignore my duty to the > club, the members or the breed, no matter how often or in what format I am > attacked. > > > > Margery E. Golant > > Recording Secretary, GSDCA > > -----Original Message----- > From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx [mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:13 PM > To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Knowledge is always important > > > > WoW! > > Who wants Margy to quit? And why? Because she continues to try to follow > Robert's Rules? Shame on her, darn it!! Because she will tell some people > when they are wrong?? Off with her head!! > > Margy, I am going to ask you to trust the membership with the knowledge they > need about the goings on in the board, so that we can make an educated > decision in the upcoming election. > > This year has to be one for the record, so much excitement, so much > mishandling. > > Encourage, not discourage..........what a joke. > > Ileana > > > > > _____ > > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com > <http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982> . > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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