While this the ideal temperament according to the standard I believe from experience that we need to have a broader perspective. I have found that most important aspect of GSD temperament is a unique ability of intelligent discernment as to the situation the dog faces. I have had dogs that are friendly to a stranger because they know the person to be of no harm to themselves or their owner and have learned to like people. I have seen that same dog sensing possible danger change into an animal ready to give it's life for you if need be. Penalizing a well socialized dog for being friendly on the loose lead temperament test when perhaps it has gone through this procedure a number of times is wrong. Jim On May 5, 2011, at 8:34 AM, ELG440@xxxxxxx wrote: > Our breed, the German shepherd is to be aloof. If the dog loves > the judge > and jumps up to give a kiss, in reality that is a temperament problem ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================