Weren't the requirements for AOE originally proposed as requirements for Select? I believe the title was created because most of the membership were opposed to limiting the dogs that could compete as specials in the National? Janice In a message dated 7/16/2006 1:40:45 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx writes: The AOE (Award of Excellence) already provides for a performance title to be in place, which of course includes herding titles, as well as OFA and Temperament Testing. Sound like a good thing to me. Yet, it is an optional award of distinction rather than a requirement for the conformation award of Select. Having a dog awarded for each area of accomplishment sounds better to me than requiring that all excel at everything. I certainly don't..... Dave ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================