We donated several dogs to Guide Dogs For The Blind in the past and all of them passed and became Guide Dogs. At that time we also had a VERY large puppy male that they placed with a very tall man for a 'perfect match'. I always think of that when people warn that our "big dogs" will be the ruination of the Breed and cannot work. We always went to watch the dogs we donated Graduate as it is very rewarding to see these GSD love their new job with their new blind owners. Then they came and took a bitch for breeding to set up their own breeding program " rather than depend on Breeders." A few years later we went to visit with friends and I was absolutely shocked to see the poor temperament I saw in PUPPIES that they were raising. It was a huge disappointment to me. I am not at all surprised they will quit using GSD because in my opinion.....as Kathy and Ruth said...their failure is in their own breeding program. Not the German Shepherd Dog Breed! Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Ruth Scheubler To: Dir@xxxxxxxxxx ; rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx ; arycrest@xxxxxxxxxxx ; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GSDs will no longer be used by Guide Dogs for the Blind The school near CTH is Guide Dogs for the Blind, the group that put out the notice. When I still worked with the puppy raisers in Santa Rosa they had a Durango son who they complained was going to be too large. Then suddenly they wanted him for a client who was very tall and whose dog had just died. That Durango son went through training in about 28 days and left with the very tall handler. They spent a lot of time talking about how incredible the dog was. In all honesty, he was able to go through quickly because the handler was expert and was able to get right in with the pogram. They had quite a few CTH dogs or dogs sired by CTH dogs in the program, but they got in some new "experts" who were invested in doing their own breeding program and creating the "perfect" dog. These days the "perfect" dog is a very different beast fom what was "perfect" when the programs started. Ruth DIR <Dir@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: OH MY---this just makes me sick. I would be so interested in knowing THE COMPLETE stats as to why they made this decision. Yes! temperament is a large part but was there trouble with other issues. Concentration, loyalty,trainabilty etc.. The GSDCA needs this info. Kathy can you get info on their breeding program so we might try to understand this?!I sent a monorchid there about 45 years ago and he made it. I know Cappy and Gloria got 3 or 4 Blues when they bred to Judd and they sent them to the guide dog school in CA. (getting old cannot remember the name) and I never heard they did not make it.This is pretty disgraceful. First Lady of The Seeing Eye was about 3/4 GSD and what a wonderful animal she was. We had better take notice of this and not just blow it off. Need more info. Sandi To: ; Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GSDs will no longer be used by Guide Dogs for the Blind > This is a sad day....and a huge mistake, as was undertaking their own> breeding program. > Kathy Tank > > On 19/12/2007, arycrest@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> My sister sent me the following information from the GUIDE DOGS FOR THE>> BLIND. It's a sad commentary on our wonderful breed.>> ======= >> After being part of our history for sixty-five years, we are regretfully >> nearing the end of the German Shepherd breed in our program. > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================