Thanks Ruth for you posts.....people shouldn't consider it a slam on the breed. Overall I do think there are other breeds more suited for this type of work though I didn't realize they were breeding their own dogs.....might be that they are not breeding the correct type of dog for this line of work and that would be a darn shame. Cindy Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I agree - the retrievers do a very good job for them, they train quickly, generally are much easier for the handlers to deal with, and very public friendly and easy care. Those are all important factors. Now it is not my dog of choice,but I have met very many labs I thought were very good dogs. I understand the group's choice as the one that works best for them. I do believe that they are offering a valid point of view - it is not the full view - but the view out of their window. It should not be considered an attack, but an honest statement of what works for htem. Ruth Edwin Hill wrote: My second ex-wife is blind as a result of a brain aneurysm about 6 years ago, she almost died....she wanted a German Shepherd guide dog very much but the school at the time did not have any, I believe they were phasing them out then....she has a black Lab named Woodson, she's had him for about three years now.....when the question came out about what breed would you have if not a Shepherd...I'd have a Lab....Woodson is the most incredible know I have ever known...he watches over my ex like a hawk!...she loves that dog much better than me, and I don't blame her....Ed Hill Connie wrote: The only place I find mention of this is here . There are some interesting comments to it below. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/155362.html Connie Palmer Williams German Shepherd Rescue of Central Colorado ..."I have promises to keep and miles to go before I sleep"...Robert Frost www.GSDRColorado.com Board member www.LastHopeSafeHaven.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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