[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurity Maturity Results
- From: "Chris S. Kimerer" <tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: The List <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:10:09 -0700 (PDT)
Cynthia
The points you make are a big disussion between a couple of friends of mine and
myself. I agree, people are tired of paying huge money for a glorified puppy
match. I myself am still a believer and active participant in them though, I
like seeing what the dogs out there are producing.
With that being said though, I totally understand why we are loosing attendance
and participation all across the board. As has been stated by many in various
posts, there are MANY factors for this, not just one. I hope that people will
participate and voice ideas, although some will not do it due to the back lash
it creates at times. I guess over the years I've developed a tougher skin,
but these posts is a great example. The emotions run strong and then
misunderstandings and jumping to conclusions happens. I think that is why a
lot of people don't post, they don't want the repercussions of such
discussions.
Back to what you are saying. The other venues give a greater opportunity for
"anyone" that is willing to spend the time and work with their dog to get
results. I think we will even see a greater increase then currently in the UKC
& German Style shows due to being able to show your own dog and place and win.
As I said in previous posts, there are no immediate and easy answers, and
hopefully people will agree to disagree without being crucified for having
difference of opinions.
Thanks for voicing yours.
Chris
Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer
www.tanbarkgsd.com
Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist
Tanbarks 2MuchBling V Joelle Aramist
CaralonQED Tanbarks Treasure Island v Joelle Aramist
Tanbark-Joelle Tanzanite of Chablis
AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E
Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu OFA H/E
Ch. Cresthers Blast V Kenlyn OFA
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Cynthia VanDenBerge <vande001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Cynthia VanDenBerge <vande001@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurity Maturity Results
To: tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:35 PM
Well, Chris, I happen to think that Carol is wrong. First off, the days where
a futurity would keep a regional club afloat until the next go round are gone.
Look at the entries! Terrible. We had the futurity 2 years ago and it was a
struggle to stay afloat...and I think we actually lost money. Fortunately my
club is fiscally sound for now. Personally, I think that people are sick and
tired of the dogs that they are seeing in the American show ring. Look at the
attendance and participation in WDA, SUSA, DVG etc. shows. It is putting our
specialties to shame and if breeders are smart, they will start to ask why.
(and lsiten when they are told). Cynthia
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Chris S. Kimerer <tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Chris S. Kimerer <tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurity Maturity Results
To: "The List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 3:25 PM
Carol
You must not have read all my posts regarding this subject, taking one sentence
of several posts does not give the entire picture. Over the years I have
traveled to several far away futurities, as far as NM a few years back. The
only ones I've never attended is the East Coast and West Coast ones.
As I stated in another post, there is NO easy answer and I totaly sympathize
with people driving great distances, been there and done it myself several
times!!! There used to be only 6 Regions, now there are 9. I was just throwing
out some thoughts, and just as the great debate on National Location, there
will never be a perfect and pleasing everyone answer.
Chris
Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer
www.tanbarkgsd.com
Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist
Tanbarks 2MuchBling V Joelle Aramist
CaralonQED Tanbarks Treasure Island v Joelle Aramist
Tanbark-Joelle Tanzanite of Chablis
AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E
Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu OFA H/E
Ch. Cresthers Blast V Kenlyn OFA
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Scharo777@xxxxxxx <Scharo777@xxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Scharo777@xxxxxxx <Scharo777@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurity Maturity Results
To: tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:08 PM
In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:21:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes:
If there is one or more regions with consistenly low numbers, I think those
regions might have to be taken out of the system. If
Chris - the regions that have low numbers are the ones in the West were people
have to drive great distances to reac h a show. If you eliminate their
region,l numbers will continue to decline, because they will not enter anywhere.
Also, so far,futurities do not loose money. The shows with them are usually
large also. The income from a Futurity weekend keeps many clubs operating.
I simply do not understand why you want to deprive isolated regions. They
still have excellent dogs. I was in New Mexico.
Carol Moore
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