[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: From AKC
- From: "Norma Ramey" <gsdramey@xxxxxxx>
- To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 08:34:11 -0500
This has been a very interesting subject!! I have rescued, bred, boarded,
trained and
worked with many many dogs of all kinds during my ENTIRE LIFE -- Please
KNOW
that ENVIRONMENT many times causes a lot more of what the dog IS than ANY
GENETIC background!!!! Think about it - you can take an entire litter and
watch
them carefully, if you will, and record their actions during their
lifetimes, each day and
come on now, EACH one will have some different way of reacting to the same
thing!
Indeed, anyone or any animal can and will react differently to the same
thing many
times -- depending on the ENVIRONMENT!!!! Norma who is NOT normal
but is definitely an expert in dogs in general - experience is the best
teacher -- Ha!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm" <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 11:09 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: From AKC
I commented that a dog should not be put up if they have a known
unsoundness that could be passed on.
I believe a dog is whelped with their temperament and how
they react to various events in their life they deal with it or not
matters if the dog is genetically sound at birth. Look at what
a police or service dog has to endure, do they become fearful doubt it.
I have known several in my lifetime none of these dogs ever became
fearful. Yet I see dogs in the show ring backing away from the judge,
fearful
eyes, tails tucked placing.
I do not believe a dog needs treats to show, to prevent bad behavior or
accept people. They should be bred with sound minds and not fearful.
It doesn't matter how many years a person is a breeder if they don't
realize temperament is there from the start. To make this clear
I am not replying this to you. The reason there are so many dogs
needing rescuing is because they were not bred
right to begin with. Most people can not deal with these dogs so they
discard them. Not everyone is capable of dealing with fear
aggressive yet I see breeders sell these dogs to pet homes.
To comment before you think I have bought fear aggressive
dogs not so. I look in their eyes and I expect my pup to look in
mine with no fear.
Have you ever read the book Breeding and Genetics
of the Dog by Anne Fitzgerald Paramoure?
Theresa
dog.
Theresa
On Fri, 9/28/12, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> wrote:
But sound mind? Look at their eyes, the eyes will tell you.
Temperament is highly influenced by environment. I have learned this
truth working with rescues. Yes, bad temperament can be genetic, no question
about that. But not all bad behaved dogs necessarily have bad temperament.
Bad
attitude, bad manners? Yes.
Just my opinion, for what is worth, which is probably very little, since no
one asked. But keep it in mind if you enter your dog in my ring. I don't
fool around when it comes to temperament, I am just not that quick to place
blame regarding it.
* Ileana *
Love me, love my dogs.
In a message dated 9/28/2012 9:56:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx writes:
*** Depends on why they are unsound, if they could pass it on or not. If
it is an inherited unsoundness they should never place. ***
Theresa
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