Yes, I will agree with that the White Shepherd breeders have tested and worked at breeding healthy dogs. The White Shepherd breeders have proof of this on their health site. This is not the white GSD but White Shepherd the ones that want the separation. However, the white GSD breeders could not be a separate breed as they have not bred pure white dogs but intermixed with the GSD. This is why the white GSD breeders are fighting so hard for the DQ to be removed on the whites. If the separate White Shepherd breed was accepted and the white dogs could not be registered with AKC it would be the end for them if AKC decided not to register them. Yes, white, liver, blues, pandas, piebald are bred by breeders that want to be different so they can sell the pups as breed standard means nothing to them. Theresa GSDCA Member scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 8/22/14, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: White should be treated the same as blue, liver, or any other undesirable color. Maybe a little better since in the last 20 years, it has proven to have no effect on the character or health of the German shepherd. Not my opinion, the fact. Evan L. Ginsburg _elg440@aol.com_ (mailto:elg440@xxxxxxx) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================