[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Discarding MYCOPLASMA
- From: "Steve Grainger" <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:55:51 -0600
One test in never conclusive...and as stated...some can be
treated...retested and are fine...stress can be temporary a subtle illness
can be temporary..any number of mitgating factors can cause a temporary
problem...cross contamination of the culture as in failing to use a guarded
swab..failure to clean the sheath of a male before collecting thus allowing
the semen to cross over all kinds of micro-organisms can give false
positives..I never take one Dr.s opinion as the gospel..as stated..by
simply picking up the phone and calling my vet Bull was spared from 3
weeks of unnecessary treatment a treatment which could have ultimately
caused a problem. I would not encourage nor would I keep for myself any dog
that has had repeated treatments with reoccurrence..continued failures to
conceive..or conception that only happens while on antibiotics. these types
of animals should certainly raise ones eyebrows and make one give serious
thought as to the continued use of the animal in ones breeding program..it
would for me...but that is just me..I don't like problems..I don't like to
deal with problems..I think our breed was meant to be hardy, fertile, easy
breeders and conception should take place without a battalion of tests and
veterinarians involved and a grocery sack full of antibiotics.C.Grainger
> [Original Message]
> From: Carolyn <marhaven@xxxxxxx>
> To: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; YCHARRON <raiseyourpaw4raw@xxxxxxxxxx>;
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 12/27/2004 3:07:00 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Discarding MYCOPLASMA
>
> That is too bad. We have turned down several bitches that did turn up
positive
> for myco plasma with HIGH numbers. They were treated, re tested,
cleared,
> brought back to be bred, and whelped large healthy litters. It's
usually just a
> temporary infection that can be brought on or caused by a number of
reasons.
> Any Breeder wants healthy vigorous litters whether the Germans do or not.
> But I sure wouldn't throw away a top bitch or top stud dog because they
had
> temporarily contracted mycoplasma.......nor would I tell those bitch
owners they
> should discard theirs.
>
> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx
> www.marhaven.com
>
> From: "Steve Grainger" <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > That is my point exactly..if I tested for mycoplasma.and found my bitch
had
> > it in large numbers..I would not use her in my breeding program...if
this
> > were a wild animals..nature would not allow it to reproduce..as they
> > obviously have no antibiotics...again..we have spent a great deal of
time
> > recently talking about German vs American..I have stated that we as
> > Americans do not what to make the tough decisions necessary to make our
> > breed healthy a vigorous like the Germans..this is a prime example of
what
> > I am talking about...instead of shoring up making the tough decisions,
to
> > take these dogs out of the breeding program..we want to "treat it and
breed
> > it".C.Grainger
> >
> >
> >> From: CHARRING <raiseyourpaw4raw@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> so why do some dogs contract it in others
> >> not..could it be that we are in denial about auto-immune issues? After
> >> all..mycoplasma like some of the other bacteria are opportunistic...the
> >> immune system has to be compromised for it to flourish>>>
> >> The question is then,why are some breeding dogs with a compromised
immune
> >> system?>>>> Yvette
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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