pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx writes :sable puppies? Sounds like a pure recessive, no? And yet, I've heard that sable is dominant........I don't see how that can be true..........I really need to see that site. ************************************************************ Yvonne writes: * Peggy, Sable is dominant so one parent has to be sable to produce sable puppies. * Sable to sable doesn't necessarily produce sable puppies unless one of the sable parents is dominant for sable (meaning they only have sable to give the offspring). * I have a sable male who was out of 2 sable parents, he's never been bred but I though it would be interesting to breed him only for the fact to see if he is dominant for sable or could produce a b/t, Yvonne ***************************************************************************************************** * If it is dominant....can't both parents just carry sable as their "other color" and be black and tan and still produce sables??? If not......why not ? Does the sable gene ALWAYS manifest itself in the actual color of the dog?? We bred a black and tan to a dark black and tan years ago and got one sable bitch in a litter of black and tans. I'm told this is not possible......( Hi Fred <G> ) ......but it happened. NO......we had no sable dogs on our property during that time.....bitch was shipped anyway. * I thought you just said sable ( the COLOR ) is dominant? If the color sable is dominant and you breed two sables together it seems to me you would get ONLY sables?? * I know if you breed two blacks ( double recessive ) all you get is solid black. It seems to me.....<G>........IF sable is dominant....he will produce sables??? If sable IS dominant it should mean that a dog will produce sable even if the other dog does not carry a sable factor? Color genetics make me dizzy and stupid and I need coffee......or sleep.....getting dizzy....falling.....zzzzzz Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================