I watched a Great Dane specialty several weeks ago. Their veterans classes went from 6-8 years and from 8-10 years. I was struck by how old and decrepit the dogs in the 6-8 class looked. They looked as old as my friend's 13 year old GSD. My River, who will be 8 in May, still looks goods still runs and jumps. (Thanks Darnell for letting me have him.) These Danes were a year younger and could barely make it around the ring. Does anyone know if this is typical of Danes? Diane BISS Ch. Echo-Cham's River Phoenix OFA H&E AKA "River" Da-Jo's Crestview Ironman AKA "Tony" Echo-Cham's Satin Doll AKA "Dolly" Tejas' Not Ready To Make Nice (deceased) DB's Kurzon Dax of Starfleet,CGC,CD, HT sheep,PT cattle, TT (deceased) Modi, CD (deceased) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================