Do I understand this correctly, are you saying that a better dog shown by a Amateur could win over a Professional Handler? Theresa scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 3/18/15, Evan Ginsburg wrote: <ELG440@xxxxxxx> I would just give it up as we did the AKC class, and some day perhaps the long coat class. Everyone should compete on the same grounds, and you will find if you have the better dogs, you will win. I did, and I sure was steadily out handled. Evan ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2015. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of both the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. POSTS CANNOT BE USED IN A COURT OF LAW. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ==========================================================================