According to Paul they are very involved. What I'm suggesting is that they become more BROADLY involved by getting 'dog oriented' Organizations get more involved. We have multi million dollar dog Companies, Vet Colleges, Vets, Grooming shops, Kennels, Parent Clubs for many other breeds, hunting Clubs, Guide Dog Org... It just seems to me that AKC could contact these groups and organizations for help and be listened to a lot easier and more than a small breeder like most of us. Paul adds... AKC does yeoman's work when it comes to this situation. Sure...we could all fault someone for something but let's take stock of their entire perspective. AKC has done a lot to unite the factions. Each month they publish a pamphlet on prospective dog legislation in each state. All our PClub members need to do to be included is ask. OR...someone ask for them. I am going to send a request tonight to AKC legislative division and request that publication be sent several Officers and Board Members. That way they will see the excellent work AKC is ALREADY doing and hopefully...support those efforts even more. Throwing rocks only works if it hits the people that SHOULD be hit...AKC isn't one of them. Paul ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================