"...some routine announcements which are of no value to most members." SAC Presidents for the 16 years I've been a member have managed to allot time for these. Yes, occasionally, we're swamped with show and tells, or the speaker goes over, but sometimes the mundane business is valuable, too. If you're going to make a pamphlet to take along, shouldn't it have contact information, too? Steve Dodder Chairman, SAC Novice Group Coordinator, Grand Canyon Star Party, North Rim Director, Stone Haven Observatory fester00@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.stonehavenobservatory.com