Howdy all; I would like to say that I am glad to see that the poll was as strongly weighted as it was toward having the club business first and then the main speaker and I think that all the reasons are worthy. I also think that we need to be flexible enough to be able to bend with a request from a particular speaker. I was saddened to see that so many folks had left, but that is the way of it. I also think that Thad's idea of controlling the show and tell by having folks "sign up" with him will get some better handle on the amount of show and tell. I know that it is hit or miss sometimes, but I think that this method can help. The amount of business is controlled to below 30 minutes by the club rules and we rarely approach that number. I hope that stays the truth for years to come. Seeing as how we have over 4000 dollars in savings, I just can't see any reason that the club would consider raising the dues anytime soon. Other than a few expenses: room, portapotty, food at GCSP, Holiday party and a few others, we just don't have a lot of expenses. That seems OK to me. I did like the idea of a telescope clinic for Christmas telescopes. I think that a little "advertising" would garner us lots of folks who would like some help getting started with their telescope. I also think that having that be in coordination with a meeting night is a good idea. Maybe just a long break once it is dark to help newbies setup and use their scope. We might do our first one in coordination with the Fall Public Star Party???? Just a thought. So, Paul, maybe your next poll could be....Are you willing to show up at a club meeting that will be a telescope clinic for potential new members and help them set up and use their new telescope? I'll bet that we will have lots of members willing to help with a task like that. Clear Skies to us all; Steve Coe Author "Deep Sky Observing--The Astronomical Tourist" Saguaro Astronomy Club website www.saguaroastro.org