The original point I was trying to make was NOT about raising dues, but raising members. -Paul And that is a great point......I know that we have a fairly small room, but it certainly would be nice to have the problem of what do we do with all these new members? I will take on getting with the usual dozen or so members who would show up as the "brain trust" for a telescope clinic. We might be able to get some new members from that clinic. I know that we don't have a "new membership officer" but, that might be worth considering. AND, NO....I don't want the job. As a matter of fact, I am negotiating right now to start writing another book for Springer-Verlag, so I think that my time will be filled up for a while. Signed, Novice Group Chairman (and that is all I want to be) Steve Coe Author "Deep Sky Observing--The Astronomical Tourist" Saguaro Astronomy Club website www.saguaroastro.org