[rollei_list] Re: [rolleiusers] Argomania

  • From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:38:42 -0800


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: [rolleiusers] Argomania


     This was the Hunt brothers, sons of H.L.Hunt a Texas
oil tycoon who claimed to have begun his fortune by winning a poker game. The Hunt brothers tried to corner the silver
market and succeeded in driving silver prices up to an
insupportable level. They were procecuted by the government and I think may have had to do some jail time. Both Nelson Bunker Hunt and his father Haroldson L. Hunt are covered by many articles, a Google search will find them. They were not
nice people.

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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


Well they took the blacks out of the photo papers. Though I'd also heard
way later that was maybe not all that true.
The only paper which had any real good old fashioned printable black left was Agfa Portriga but that was a warm black. Decidedly uncool. You had to try to figure out how to neutralized it. Amidol was one way. Agfa 130 with Glycin another in the tray for 5 minutes. And others. Benzotriazole instead
of Bromide as a restrainer.
Me I just used Agfa Brovira.  I believe in bromide.
Then GALLERY Paper came out and they realized people would pay a few extra bucks to get some silver in their premium paper. After that as far as I went and the photographers I knew Ilford took over and the Multigrade papers
became viable.

What everyone thought was happening was they'd keep taking the silver out of the papers instead of raising the prices on them every other month. But that may not have been true. Some other weird thing going on in paper
manufacture. Its always what you don't think.




Mark William Rabiner

The business of "silver rich" or silver starved paper was exposed (pardon the pun) by Dr. Richard Henry in his book. He actually measured the silver content of several papers and then measured the Dmax they were capable of. Result: no relation, the richest papers did not have particularly high Dmax and the lowest silver papers did pretty well. The Dmax is related to several factors such as the covering power of the developed silver, which has more do to with morphology of the crystals than the amount. The same with film: there have been claims that the T-Max series of films was developed (no pun intended) to save on the amount of silver. There is simply no substantiation to this. Tabular grain emulsions were intended to produce finer grain with similar sensitivity to conventional cubical grain emulsions. The difference is mostly in the way the silver nitrate is introduced to the emulsion. It may well require less silver but the thinner emulsions result in very much improved resolution and sharpness (not the same thing) as well as finer grain for a given speed. There are many other differences in the T-Max films which are probably not related to the crystal shape such as much better reciprocity characteristics than most other films.

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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



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