[rollei_list] Re: Tell the tales of Triotars

  • From: Georges Giralt <georges.giralt@xxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 18:56:17 +0200

Le 05/05/2013 18:41, Richard Knoppow a écrit :

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sanders McNew" <sanders@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:26 AM
Subject: [rollei_list] Tell the tales of Triotars


Apart from the obvious difference in aperture, can anyone speak to the differences (if any) between the f/3.8 and f/4.5 Triotars? Does anyone think they can see any discernible differences in how they render images? The difference in speed seems slight -- why did F+H offer both lenses? Is there any advantage to one over the other?

Sanders McNew

The answer may lie in the cost of the lenses. I suspect the f/3.8 was offered because it was closer to the f/3.5 lens on the Rolleiflex but the Flex originally came with a slower lens. Another possibility is the size of the shutter, the slower lens will fit a smaller shutter. Kodak made the 127mm Ektar as an f/4.7 lens because the iris in the shutter they used would not open wide enough for f/4.5 and did the same thing with an f/3.8 Ektar for press cameras which is essentially the same as the f/3.5 lens in the Medalist camera only slightly longer in focal length and in a standard shutter. Both Tessars and Triplets are best as slower lenses, perhaps around f/6.3. At larger apertures they begin to lose sharpness at the margins of the image. The f/3.5 and f/4.5 lenses are at their best for overall sharpness when stopped down to around f/11. You may know that the Triplet is the simplest lens that can be corrected for all seven primary aberrations. They were difficult lenses to design pre-computer because any change in any parameter affects everything else. They also are very sensitive to element spacing so require precision mounting.

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Richard Knoppow
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Hello !
Something puzzle me. I own an Agfa Isolette II which is fitted with a 85 mm F:4.5 Apotar lens. It is a 3 lenses lens design and use front focusing (i.e; the front element unscrew for the focusing). This said, it is a very good lens and has plenty of contrast and detail (to my surprise). As this lens dates as back as the early '60s I wonder what is different from the Triotar lenses ?
Thank you to enlightening me ;-)

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