German to Spanish via English - good grief, its no wonder I'm so confused!Excellent recommendation - I shall have to buy Prochnow and see if I can get through the untranslated German version.
Mit herzlichen Glueckwunsch aus Kanada, Mike Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:
OK, but light is not bright anyway and then hell means "light" too, not only "bright" like you wrote, I forgot that "clear" is not applied for colors in English, in Spanish "claro" means "clear" but it can be used for colors too and the word "ligero" -"light" could be used for colors as well for the same meaning. Each one with his book, Parker and Prochnow have different criteria to distinguish models, I prefer Prochnow in general for several reasons but I respect mr Parker too.- All the best Carlos --- Mike Kovacs <mskovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:Alles Klar? Wait, "Klar" means "clear" in this sense. :p Hellrot means "light red" (no question in my mind about this) Sorry, you might get the sense that I'm beingargumentative - not the case at all. The photos in Parker are grey too and he describes them as such.Not being a completely fluent German speaker, onecould take "Hell" to mean "bright", as in unfinished metal - not painted, anodized, blued, etc. I recall it looks like paint on mine but I should re-examine it when I get home.Any German speakers willing to stand and be counted? Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:It means "clear" too, do you know the Rollei"Hellrot"filter? All the best Carlos --- Mike Kovacs <mskovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:"Hell" means "bright" - my German is a littlerustybut I was pretty fluent in the past.Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:Mike, I have the original book in German and the translation booklet into English by GuntherRichterapproved by Prochnow, I read both version andthenIimprove my bad German. The German word for "Grey"is"Grau", the German word for "clear" is "hell". IntheGerman version, the camera description says"HelleStellräder...", the English version says " Bright dials ...", the photographs shown in the Report IareB&W and look like this one:http://web.archive.org/web/20050309131645/www.rolleiclub.com/rollei/tlr/004.htmAnd this color one is from John's Rolleicollection:http://johnsrolleionlypage.homestead.com/files/Rolleiflex_automat_1B_627701_Large.JPGAll the best Carlos --- Mike Kovacs <mskovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:I have seen many early Automats with grey wheelsinperson - many more on ebay. I have never seen one with clearwheels.Its definitely a textured paint finish on the grey inserts. Areyoureading the original German text in Prochnow or a translation?Can anybody else add some information to shedlighton this? Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:Mike, congratulations for your restorationwork,itlooks professional and the PC socket too.Prochnowshows a Rolleicord with the very rare Xenar4.5/75andan adapted PC socket placed beside the takinglenslower part. According your camera serial number it's anAutomatIII model for Prochnow and an Automat II forParker.For Prochnow it would be an Automat III becauseithas=== message truncated === __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo!Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar--- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx- Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org- Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org- Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list
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