[rollei_list] Re: Rolleiflex TLR Viewing Lens Provenance

  • From: Mike Kovacs <mskovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:28:34 -0500

"Hell" means "bright" - my German is a little rusty but I was pretty fluent in the past. 



Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:


Mike, I have the original book in German and the
translation booklet into English by Gunther Richter
approved by Prochnow, I read both version and then I
improve my bad German. The German word for "Grey" is
"Grau", the German word for "clear" is "hell". In the
German version, the camera description says "Helle
Stellräder...", the English version says " Bright
dials ...", the photographs shown in the Report I are
B&W and look like this one:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050309131645/www.rolleiclub.com/rollei/tlr/004.htm


And this color one is from John's Rollei collection:

http://johnsrolleionlypage.homestead.com/files/Rolleiflex_automat_1B_627701_Large.JPG

All the best
Carlos
--- Mike Kovacs <mskovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:


I have seen many early Automats with grey wheels in
person - many more on ebay. I have never seen one with clear wheels. Its definitely a textured paint finish on the grey inserts. Are you reading the original German text in Prochnow or a translation? 

Can anybody else add some information to shed light
on this?


Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:


Mike, congratulations for your restoration work, it
looks professional and the PC socket too. Prochnow
shows a Rolleicord with the very rare Xenar 4.5/75

and

an adapted PC socket placed beside the taking lens
lower part.
According your camera serial number it's an Automat
III model for Prochnow and an Automat II for

Parker.

For Prochnow it would be an Automat III because it

has

the Bayonet 1 for both lenses and no engraved name

in

the viewfinder lens ring. According Prochnow there

no

Automats with "gray" wheels, they are clear for the
Automat I and II and black for the Automat III and
then it's difficult to say if your camera wheels

are

discolored black wheels or darkened clear wheels...
anyway it's always possible your camera suffered

some

parts change along the years.
As I wrote previously, your camera Carl Zeiss Jena
serial number is for a lens manufactured on 1941
according the data and date that Prochnow obtained

from Carl Zeiss archives, if the lens is original

it

onlu could be for an Automat III.-

All the best
Carlos


--- Mike Kovacs <mskovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:




Carlos, I restored this camera to shooting

condition
myself. I don't own Prochnow, though I probably should! 

The Compur Rapid shutter had what looked like a
factory parts PC synch conversion (nicely done) but the synch terminal 
was
some sort of non-standard connection located in that position 
you
see. When I restored the camera, I replaced that terminal with 
a
locking PC socket taken from a junker Kiev 4 camera. So from a collectors standpoint its been modified, but its a wonderful shooter for the days I'm in the mood for an uncoated Tessar look. 

You can't see the cable release socket but this
camera has the button style release with the cable release socket on the opposide side, behind where the lens hood is blocking. 



http://www3.sympatico.ca/mskovacs/pv/Rolleiflex/PrewarAutomat1.jpg




Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:


Mike, my source is Claus Prochnow, Rollei Report

1,

anyway I'm seeing that your camera seems to have

a

PC

socket beside the viewing lens and then your

camera

is

a modified Automat, it's not original, the PC

socket

was one of the upgrades for the Automat, the

Bayonet

for the viewing lens is also an upgrade, ¿what is

your

camera serial number? ¿Could you show a

photograph

where we can see the camera shutter release

button

and

the cable release socket?.
The first Rolleiflex camera with PC socket

original

from factory was the Rolleiflex 3.5 X from 1949.-

All the best
Carlos

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