Ah, now I remember the part about the Abstand. I should have printed out that email and placed it in my Rollei Collector's book. The two Rolleis I have with no lens caps are: Rolleiflex T - Ser. No. 2155138 - I assume that all of the Rolleiflex T models use a Bay I cap. Rolleiflex 3.5F - Ser. No. 3,5F 2212699 - This one will accept a Bay II cap on the viewing lens only...the taking lens appears to be too far down to let the cap fall over it. The two things that are the biggest pain in the butt for me re: Rolleis are (1) the lens caps (expensive and hard to find), and (2) the straps (expensive and hard to find and uncomfortable). But there are a few things that are a pain in the butt for early Leicas as well...like the take-up spools and crumbling Vulcanite. :-) Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA http://www.400tx.com http://400tx.blogspot.com/ -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marc James Small Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 10:42 PM To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Okay, I think I screwed up At 10:04 PM 8/26/2006, Jeffery Smith wrote: >It was probably me, ordering the one that doesn't fit. It's hard when >the seller just advertises it as Bay II and the reference books just >list them as Bay II and Fleenor's site just cites them as Bay II. > >Jeffery Smith >New Orleans, LA >http://www.400tx.com >http://400tx.blogspot.com/ > Jeffery Here it is in a nutshell: Rolleiflex 2.8A Unique Bayonet II Rolleiflex 3.5C (Europe)/3.5E (US) Bayonet II with 42mm abstand 3.5E2 Bayonet II with 42mm abstand 3.5F Bayonet II with 45mm abstand 3.5E3 Bayonet II with 45mm abstand "Abstand" is the German term for the offset from the center of the viewing lens to the center of the taking lens. The greater distance in the later cameras is caused by the use of a more complicated shutter arrangement in the later 3.5 cameras to accommodate the integrated light-meter and shutter controls, speed and f/stop. Identification of a specific Rolleiflex model can be a bear but if you will send me your body serial number, I ought to be able to decipher this. If it is a 3.5F, all but the very first carry "3.5F" as the first part of the serial number. Marc msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list