My dad is still commanding ships, and he is in his 80s. my friend Leni Riefenstahl put out her last film (asked Dad to review it -- IMPRESSIONEN UNTER WASSER) at age 100... But I know too many folks who are kaputt at 72 or so... I did say 75+ years... Sorta like my National Graflex... Average age of my cameras is about 1940... and I prefer the lenses that don't have that blue stuff on the glass... P.J. Nebergall On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:43:56 -0700 Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Peter, > > Obsolete, am I? I just started a full time job in Aerospace > engineering > the day after my 77th birthday!! > > Jerry > > Peter J Nebergall wrote: > > > My first wife helped develop the IBM Displaywriter, with its 2 > 8-inch > > floppies, the "toaster" -- ever even SEEN an 8-inch floppy? And > I'm not > > that ancient. > > > > Pick up an 8 year old 3.5 floppy. Odds are it will be DS, and you > can't > > rven read it. Unless you regularly transfer data, hard drive to > hard > > drive, digital data is FAR MORE FRAGILE than the human memory. At > least > > it takes 75+ years for a human to become obsolete... > > > > Its all just a way for manufacturers to shove you the latest > trendy &^%$. > > "Practical?" who you kiddin? Whatever can be portrayed as > fashionable > > to the rich and clueless... > > > > PJ Nebergall > > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:00:46 -0700 "Jeff Kelley" > <thocker@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > writes: > > > Carlos, museums and similar organizations have struggled with > this > > > issue of > > > digital archiving for decades. It is not easily solved. > > > > > > I think it telling that I can still easily view and print my > > > great-grandfather's film negatives but can no longer access 5.25 > > > inch > > > computer floppy diskettes that I, myself, produced not that many > > > years > > > ago.... > > > > > > -Jeff- > > > > > > > > > >The RUG Digistar archives loss due to a disk crack > > > >recalled me the issue about to image and data in > > > >general preservation; I found an official site about > > > >the issue containing an expert conference on the > > > >topic, some of my very general conclusions reading the > > > >article are that film and microfilm are still the best > > > >and cheapest way to archive images and documents, > > > >however the fact digital technology is producing > > > >valuable documents requires to establish systems to > > > >preserve these documents and they are very expensive > > > >in part because they demand an upgrading for short > > > >periods: > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.archives.gov/preservation/conferences/papers-2003/puglia.html > > > > > > > >All the best > > > >Carlos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > >Preguntá. 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