That must be an aftermarket addition.
On May 6, 2016, at 4:30 AM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There is no doubt the clip-on twin rigid metal cap with "F&H" and Carl Zeiss
Jena logo was the original lens cap for the pre-war Rolleiflex Automat models
I and II (manufactured from August 1937 to March 1939), without bayonet for
the viewing lens. The Rolleiflex Automat III with bayonet for the viewing
lens (manufactured from March 1939 to September 1949) received the new twin
rigid metal lens cap with central latch used for the Rolleiflex up to October
1949 and for the Rolleicord up to about March 1957 (Rolleicord V); it was
plastic made for the Rolleicord Va and Vb.
This another nice sample -with details- for the Automat I and II lens cap
showing the F&H and CZJ logos:
http://www.storiadellafotografia.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/240-Foto-2.jpg ;
<http://www.storiadellafotografia.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/240-Foto-2.jpg>
Carlos
2016-05-05 19:04 GMT-03:00 José Paula <jppaula@xxxxxxxx
<mailto:jppaula@xxxxxxxx>>:
Thank you for the info Carlos.
In fact the book from John Phillips does not refer any of these cap
variations.
Jose
On 05 May 2016, at 16:28, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Jose:
The prrewar Rolleiflex Automat first or second model (it does not
have bayonet for the viewing lens) shown by Peter also used the lens cap
with FH and Carl Zeiss Jena logo, this is another sample from Germany:
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ROLLEI-Rolleiflex-Automat-SNr-613470-/00/s/ODAwWDEyMDA=/z/XSMAAOSwZ8ZXAozR/$_57.JPG
<http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ROLLEI-Rolleiflex-Automat-SNr-613470-/00/s/ODAwWDEyMDA=/z/XSMAAOSwZ8ZXAozR/$_57.JPG>
The original _6x6_ Rolleiflex used two different lens caps, one of them with
the Carl Zeiss Jena logo, similar regarding the lens caps for F&H Stereo
cameras; you can see the samples and the comment almost at the end fo this
page:
http://www.janboettcher.de/MuseumR1eng.html ;
<http://www.janboettcher.de/MuseumR1eng.html>
Nice images about your cameras BTW.
Carlos
2016-05-05 12:00 GMT-03:00 José Paula <jppaula@xxxxxxxx
<mailto:jppaula@xxxxxxxx>>:
Hi,
I am new in posting in this list.
You can find the description of all Rolleiflex caps in John Phillips book
(the Classic Rollei).
The one you describe yes it is only for the Rolleiflex Old Standard
(1932-38).
The only other cap that has engraved the Carl Zeiss Jena logo is the one for
the original Rolleiflex 4x4 (1931-1938).
I have both cameras working, but lack both caps!
See them here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/139292410@N03/albums/72157666736669502 ;
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/139292410@N03/albums/72157666736669502>
https://www.flickr.com/photos/139292410@N03/albums/72157666340618060 ;
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/139292410@N03/albums/72157666340618060>
Jose
On 05 May 2016, at 15:34, Peter Mattei <petermattei@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:petermattei@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Thank you, Carlos! I too have several rigid lens caps; however, none that
mention Carl Zeiss and/or Jena as well as F&H. Mine all say "Rollei". In
prior, more frivolous years, I would be purchasing the camera solely for
the cap! Thankfully, I am now at the very beginnings of maturity. Peter
On 5 May 2016 at 06:42, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Interesting image Peter, they are prewar metal lens caps for Rollei TLR
cameras, they became a rare item today. This is an example for a Rolleiflex
Standard with F&H logo for the viewing lens and Carl Zeiss Jena logo for
the taking lens:
http://camera.orientalcollection.jp/wp/cameradata/no112/RolleiSTD/2140images/2140-22.jpg
<http://camera.orientalcollection.jp/wp/cameradata/no112/RolleiSTD/2140images/2140-22.jpg>
The knowm Rollei TLR foldable lens cap was made from about 1949 for
Rolleiflex cameras, Rolleicord cameras used a rigid metal lens cap up to
about the Rolleicord Va model, when they received a plastic lens cap. My
Rolleicord IV from 1954 has an original rigid metal lens cap with the word
ROLLEI on the viewing lens and there are no words or logo for the taking
lens, this lens cap model was also used for Rolleiflex cameras from about
1939 to 1949:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolleiflex-Automat-II-vintage-6x6-camera-lens-Zeiss-Tessar-3-5-75mm-case-/400604576472?hash=item5d45e4bad8:m:m26hfl2HFa83J44eGSfIOVA
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolleiflex-Automat-II-vintage-6x6-camera-lens-Zeiss-Tessar-3-5-75mm-case-/400604576472?hash=item5d45e4bad8:m:m26hfl2HFa83J44eGSfIOVA>
Carlos
2016-05-05 2:14 GMT-03:00 Peter Mattei <petermattei@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:petermattei@xxxxxxxxx>>:
I came across this fleabay listing and note that I've never seen a F&H /
Carl Zeiss Jena lenscap. This is a new one for me.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolleiflex-Automat-6x6-Model-RF111A-With-Case-Early-Serial-Zeiss-lens-pre-war/331843333382?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36464%26meid%3D607a4e3e447b4e0984f899d3f95eeab3%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D351714598676
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolleiflex-Automat-6x6-Model-RF111A-With-Case-Early-Serial-Zeiss-lens-pre-war/331843333382?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36464%26meid%3D607a4e3e447b4e0984f899d3f95eeab3%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D351714598676>
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