Here in NY I have a Manfrotto ProBall 308 On a Gitzo G-1157 Mountaineer Sport 6X Carbon Fiber Tripod legs (Rapid Column) - a bit presumptuous but I'm amused by its pretensions. http://www.pragmatic.com.pl/manfrotto/pictures/308_itm_img.gif Looks more solid than it looks in the pic. Make that gif. Better than it looks in the gif. I also look better than I do in the gif. Mark William Rabiner markrabiner.com --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list