At 09:34 AM 9/8/05 -0500, Peter J Nebergall wrote: >T&H lenses had some relation to Cooke. I have a Cooke Amotal in Leitz >screw.. that I suppose was once on a reid. I doubt that any LTM Cooke Amotal ever graced a Reid save in some sort of fit of absentmindedness. The Taylor, Taylor and Hobson f/2 2"Amotal was the standard lens on the abortive Bell & Howell Foton camera. When B&H pulled the plug, they had a stock of lenses on hand and promptly marketed them to some New York house, quite possibly Peerless, who shpped the lenses overseas to be fitted into mounts for regular 35mm cameras. The actual conversion was performed in Italy. This would have been around 1953. The US Fair Trade Laws of the era allowed the manufacturer to set the sales price on its products so long as they were sold with only factory-produced items. Thus, Leitz could dictate the sales price on, say, a IIIf camera if it were sold with a Leitz Elmar or Summitar lens. However, the manufacturer lost this power if the item was sold with an aftermarket addition, so a discount house could dig deep if it could sell a Leica camera body with an aftermarket lens. (I suspect that the garage industry which produced the 1.5/5.8 "Leica Sonnar" and "Sonnarex" lenses in the later 1940's was an effort to work into this marekt but it was quashed for reasons which still remain murky. Perhaps the Gehlendienst had something to do with it!) In the end, a number of these excellent lenses were fitted into exceedingly crude LTM mounts and were sold by the discount houses in New York and other major US cities. Much rarer are those in Contax RF BM, though these do exist as well. The lens is a really solid performer and the glass elements were made in the UK but the lens is really a combination of American greed and Italian ingenuity. You might wish to consult your copy of that magnificent and magisterial tome, NON-LEITZ LEICA THREADMOUNT LENSES: A 39mm DIVERSITY, published by Wittig in Germany and drafted by one <ah-HEM> Marc James Small, where this lens is discussed in detail. The Reid lenses are discussed there, as well, and are also covered in detail in Hans P Rajner's LEICA COPIES work. Marc msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! NEW FAX NUMBER: +540-343-8505 --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list