Its a coated Amotal, f1.4. Looks so much like the coated 1.4 Nikon in Leica Screw that I wonder if Cooke lenses were the basis for the Nikons..... PJ Nebergall I saw a guidebook with a Reid, said it was sold with a CTH f2.2 as standard.... On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:08:01 -0400 Marc James Small <msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > At 09:34 AM 9/8/05 -0500, Peter J Nebergall wrote: > >T&H lenses had some relation to Cooke. I have a Cooke Amotal in > Leitz > >screw.. that I suppose was once on a reid. > > I doubt that any LTM Cooke Amotal ever graced a Reid save in some > sort of > fit of absentmindedness. > > The Taylor, Taylor and Hobson f/2 2"Amotal was the standard lens on > the > abortive Bell & Howell Foton camera. When B&H pulled the plug, they > had a > stock of lenses on hand and promptly marketed them to some New York > house, > quite possibly Peerless, who shpped the lenses overseas to be fitted > into > mounts for regular 35mm cameras. The actual conversion was > performed in > Italy. This would have been around 1953. > > The US Fair Trade Laws of the era allowed the manufacturer to set > the sales > price on its products so long as they were sold with only > factory-produced > items. Thus, Leitz could dictate the sales price on, say, a IIIf > camera if > it were sold with a Leitz Elmar or Summitar lens. However, the > manufacturer lost this power if the item was sold with an > aftermarket > addition, so a discount house could dig deep if it could sell a > Leica > camera body with an aftermarket lens. (I suspect that the garage > industry > which produced the 1.5/5.8 "Leica Sonnar" and "Sonnarex" lenses in > the > later 1940's was an effort to work into this marekt but it was > quashed for > reasons which still remain murky. Perhaps the Gehlendienst had > something > to do with it!) > > In the end, a number of these excellent lenses were fitted into > exceedingly > crude LTM mounts and were sold by the discount houses in New York > and other > major US cities. Much rarer are those in Contax RF BM, though these > do > exist as well. > > The lens is a really solid performer and the glass elements were > made in > the UK but the lens is really a combination of American greed and > Italian > ingenuity. > > You might wish to consult your copy of that magnificent and > magisterial > tome, NON-LEITZ LEICA THREADMOUNT LENSES: A 39mm DIVERSITY, > published by > Wittig in Germany and drafted by one <ah-HEM> Marc James Small, > where this > lens is discussed in detail. > > The Reid lenses are discussed there, as well, and are also covered > in > detail in Hans P Rajner's LEICA COPIES work. > > Marc > > msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! > > NEW FAX NUMBER: +540-343-8505 > > > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list