[rollei_list] Re: Cooke Amotal and Fair-Trade Laws

  • From: Peter J Nebergall <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 17:25:45 -0500

Its a coated Amotal, f1.4.  Looks so much like the coated 1.4 Nikon in
Leica Screw that I wonder if Cooke lenses were the basis for the
Nikons.....

PJ Nebergall

I saw a guidebook with a Reid, said it was sold with a CTH f2.2 as
standard....





On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:08:01 -0400 Marc James Small
<msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> At 09:34 AM 9/8/05 -0500, Peter J Nebergall wrote:
> >T&H lenses had some relation to Cooke.  I have a Cooke Amotal in 
> Leitz
> >screw.. that I suppose was once on a reid.  
> 
> I doubt that any LTM Cooke Amotal ever graced a Reid save in some 
> sort of
> fit of absentmindedness.  
> 
> The Taylor, Taylor and Hobson f/2 2"Amotal was the standard lens on 
> the
> abortive Bell & Howell Foton camera.  When B&H pulled the plug, they 
> had a
> stock of lenses on hand and promptly marketed them to some New York 
> house,
> quite possibly Peerless, who shpped the lenses overseas to be fitted 
> into
> mounts for regular 35mm cameras.  The actual conversion was 
> performed in
> Italy.  This would have been around 1953.
> 
> The US Fair Trade Laws of the era allowed the manufacturer to set 
> the sales
> price on its products so long as they were sold with only 
> factory-produced
> items.  Thus, Leitz could dictate the sales price on, say, a IIIf 
> camera if
> it were sold with a Leitz Elmar or Summitar lens.  However, the
> manufacturer lost this power if the item was sold with an 
> aftermarket
> addition, so a discount house could dig deep if it could sell a 
> Leica
> camera body with an aftermarket lens.  (I suspect that the garage 
> industry
> which produced the 1.5/5.8 "Leica Sonnar" and "Sonnarex" lenses in 
> the
> later 1940's was an effort to work into this marekt but it was 
> quashed for
> reasons which still remain murky.  Perhaps the Gehlendienst had 
> something
> to do with it!)  
> 
> In the end, a number of these excellent lenses were fitted into 
> exceedingly
> crude LTM mounts and were sold by the discount houses in New York 
> and other
> major US cities.  Much rarer are those in Contax RF BM, though these 
> do
> exist as well.
> 
> The lens is a really solid performer and the glass elements were 
> made in
> the UK but the lens is really a combination of American greed and 
> Italian
> ingenuity.
> 
> You might wish to consult your copy of that magnificent and 
> magisterial
> tome, NON-LEITZ LEICA THREADMOUNT LENSES:   A 39mm DIVERSITY, 
> published by
> Wittig in Germany and drafted by one <ah-HEM> Marc James Small, 
> where this
> lens is discussed in detail.
> 
> The Reid lenses are discussed there, as well, and are also covered 
> in
> detail in Hans P Rajner's LEICA COPIES work.
> 
> Marc
> 
> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
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