[rollei_list] Re: Cooke Amotal and Fair-Trade Laws

  • From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:25:33 -0700

Peter,

No, they were f2/ 2 inch lenses on the Reid  (is it pronounced 'reed' or
'ride'?)

Jerry

Peter J Nebergall wrote:

> Its a coated Amotal, f1.4.  Looks so much like the coated 1.4 Nikon in
> Leica Screw that I wonder if Cooke lenses were the basis for the
> Nikons.....
>
> PJ Nebergall
>
> I saw a guidebook with a Reid, said it was sold with a CTH f2.2 as
> standard....
>
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:08:01 -0400 Marc James Small
> <msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > At 09:34 AM 9/8/05 -0500, Peter J Nebergall wrote:
> > >T&H lenses had some relation to Cooke.  I have a Cooke Amotal in
> > Leitz
> > >screw.. that I suppose was once on a reid.
> >
> > I doubt that any LTM Cooke Amotal ever graced a Reid save in some
> > sort of
> > fit of absentmindedness.
> >
> > The Taylor, Taylor and Hobson f/2 2"Amotal was the standard lens on
> > the
> > abortive Bell & Howell Foton camera.  When B&H pulled the plug, they
> > had a
> > stock of lenses on hand and promptly marketed them to some New York
> > house,
> > quite possibly Peerless, who shpped the lenses overseas to be fitted
> > into
> > mounts for regular 35mm cameras.  The actual conversion was
> > performed in
> > Italy.  This would have been around 1953.
> >
> > The US Fair Trade Laws of the era allowed the manufacturer to set
> > the sales
> > price on its products so long as they were sold with only
> > factory-produced
> > items.  Thus, Leitz could dictate the sales price on, say, a IIIf
> > camera if
> > it were sold with a Leitz Elmar or Summitar lens.  However, the
> > manufacturer lost this power if the item was sold with an
> > aftermarket
> > addition, so a discount house could dig deep if it could sell a
> > Leica
> > camera body with an aftermarket lens.  (I suspect that the garage
> > industry
> > which produced the 1.5/5.8 "Leica Sonnar" and "Sonnarex" lenses in
> > the
> > later 1940's was an effort to work into this marekt but it was
> > quashed for
> > reasons which still remain murky.  Perhaps the Gehlendienst had
> > something
> > to do with it!)
> >
> > In the end, a number of these excellent lenses were fitted into
> > exceedingly
> > crude LTM mounts and were sold by the discount houses in New York
> > and other
> > major US cities.  Much rarer are those in Contax RF BM, though these
> > do
> > exist as well.
> >
> > The lens is a really solid performer and the glass elements were
> > made in
> > the UK but the lens is really a combination of American greed and
> > Italian
> > ingenuity.
> >
> > You might wish to consult your copy of that magnificent and
> > magisterial
> > tome, NON-LEITZ LEICA THREADMOUNT LENSES:   A 39mm DIVERSITY,
> > published by
> > Wittig in Germany and drafted by one <ah-HEM> Marc James Small,
> > where this
> > lens is discussed in detail.
> >
> > The Reid lenses are discussed there, as well, and are also covered
> > in
> > detail in Hans P Rajner's LEICA COPIES work.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> > msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
> >
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> >
> >
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