Todd, Thanks for the clarification. I'm glad that I didn't check my 2.8F first. I see now that the rubberized ring acts as a displacement diaphragm, or membrane to affect an internal light seal. Jerry Todd Belcher wrote: > Jerry, > > The 2.8 A and B have felt lining the inside of a metal ring that forms > a light trap as the taking lens moves in and out. The taking lens moves > back and forth in the felt surround. The 2.8 C, D, E and E2 have a > rubberized cloth bellows in place of the felt light trap. The > rubberized cloth bellows can be hard to see because there is sometimes > a lens shroud on the back element of the taking lens that obscures the > bellows. The E3 and F have the felt surround. > > In the 3.5 cameras, the felt surround is used up until the MX-EVS. The > E, E2 and early F (ring shutter) have the rubberized cloth bellows and > the later F and E3 cameras have the felt surround again. > > todd > > On 17-Aug-05, at 6:46 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote: > > > Richard, > > > > I did that on my 2.8E2 and saw NO bellows. I won't > > bother checking my 2.8F. > > > > Todd could straighten this out. > > > > Jerry > > > > Richard Knoppow wrote: > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: "rollei list" <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 6:30 PM > >> Subject: [rollei_list] Bellows on 2.8D? > >> > >>> RUGers, > >>> > >>> On the Medium Format Forum, some chap stated that his 2.8D > >>> had BELLOWS > >>> in > >>> it. Internally of course. Is this true? My 2.8E2 does > >>> not. > >>> > >>> Eric, I believe that you have a 2.8D. > >>> > >>> Can someone confirm this? > >>> > >>> Jerry > >>> > >>> --- > >> My 2.8E definitely has a short bellows. Rack focus out to > >> maximum and shine a flashlight at the back of the taking > >> lens, you should see a cloth surround there. Presumably, > >> this forms a more reliable light trap than the plain > >> telescoping tubes on earlier Rolleis. Perhaps it was used on > >> only a few models. > >> > >> --- > >> Richard Knoppow > >> Los Angeles, CA, USA > >> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> --- > >> Rollei List > >> > >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > >> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >> > >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > >> www.freelists.org > >> > >> - Online, searchable archives are available at > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > --- > > Rollei List > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list