"I have a RH10 but I seldom use it since it's like using a Rolleikin on a > Rolleiflex."-Siu Fai Have you ever tried a Rolleikin? shoots verticals in the normal TLR holding position; horizontals require a prism and pistol grip. The quality, however, is very good since it uses a smaller, center portion of the 75MM lens coverage. And if 120 film isn't available, it's a plausible alternative. It was originally developed, according to Ian Parker, because slide film was not originally available in 120 in the 30's and 40's. I regularly use the Rollei 645 conversion kit on one of my Rollei Ts to get the extra four exposures (32 on 220 film) with a format close to the standard print sizes. The square format cannot be beat for flash pix, however, since the flash when attached to the camera is always on top and you can make the vertical v. horizontal decision after the pix are taken. As far as the Sony digitals are concerned, I am disappointed with my son's P10 version because of the shutter lag, particularly with flash due to the red eye preflash thing and the inability to see what apertures and shutter speeds are being used. Produces a lot of very delete-able crappy shots, which is why they have that delete button, I'm afraid. Using higher iso speeds just produces more crappy shots. ----- Original Message ----- From: TrueBadger@xxxxxxx To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: "Advantage of 4x5 over medium format" (was: Austin has ... In a message dated 4/19/2005 4:00:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, siufai@xxxxxx writes: > And make certain it has the Graflok back so you can use the readily > available > >120 roll film backs. > > I have a RH10 but I seldom use it since it's like using a Rolleikin on a > Rolleiflex. > > Best regards, > > Siu Fai > > If you want to use roll film, get a 2x3 graphic and not a 4x5 ... carrying a 4x5 around to shoot roll film is absurd. G. King