Got it thanks Michael Lesnick Axiom Healthcare Group 18135 Santa Lauretta Cir Fountain Valley, CA 92708 714-594-5720 - Office Phone 714-323-5968 - Cell 714-968-7076 - Fax MikeL@xxxxxxxxxxx From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JACK GARIBALDI Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:39 AM To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Fw: URGENT NOTICE FROM AEROTECH Mike start by sending one here specialpermits@xxxxxxx <mailto:specialpermits@xxxxxxx> Jack G ----- Original Message ----- From: Lesnick, Mike <mailto:mikel@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:24 AM Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Fw: URGENT NOTICE FROM AEROTECH Do we know which legislators are on key committees that deal with these regulations? I deal with healthcare regulations and we often need to mobilize providers to oppose unnecessary or harmful regulations. Identifying the individuals most closely associated with the issue and flooding them with correspondence is a necessary step. Even though the regulatory agency has certain authority, getting to key legislators early can have an influence. Is the regulatory agency makes the change it's usually too late, or at a minimum, the fix becomes a much more expensive and costly process possibly involving legal action which often is simply too expensive to pursue. If we have specific individuals we should write letters. How is Tripoli and NAR participating in this? Mike Michael Lesnick Axiom Healthcare Group 18135 Santa Lauretta Cir Fountain Valley, CA 92708 714-594-5720 - Office Phone 714-323-5968 - Cell 714-968-7076 - Fax MikeL@xxxxxxxxxxx From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David.P.Smith@xxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:52 AM To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Fw: URGENT NOTICE FROM AEROTECH Thanks, Jack! Here we go again... I wonder if letter to representatives and senators are premature? David P Smith NAR 78668 L2 Amateur Extra, W6DPS * The opinions expressed in this email are my own and do not necessarily represent the positions, strategies or opinions of Southern California Edison, its parent company Edison International, or any of their affiliates. From: "JACK GARIBALDI" <JackGaribaldi@xxxxxxx> To: "Aeropac Members" <aeropac-members@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Roc Chat" <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "TCC -Chat" <tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Tripoli San Diego List Serv" <tripoli-sd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 09/27/2011 07:47 AM Subject: [roc-chat] Fw: URGENT NOTICE FROM AEROTECH Sent by: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________ I wanted to pass this on to everyone Jack G ----- Original Message ----- From: AeroTech Customer Service <mailto:customerservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: All CA & HP Dealers <mailto:customerservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:40 AM Subject: URGENT NOTICE FROM AEROTECH Dear AeroTech Product Representative: Urgent Notice - Your Immediate Action Is Needed, Send Your E-Mail By October 10, Help preserve your rights regarding model rocketry. Dear AeroTech Customer, Many people are concerned with new government regulations that seem destined to limit our freedoms as well as those that affect our hobbies. You may have heard of some recently that affect various hobbies. New regulations are being considered regarding model rocket motors. This may not immediately impact your access to model rocket materials but it's just another step toward more restrictive regulations concerning our hobby and deserves your attention. The US Department of Transportation (DOT) has recently advised that they propose to terminate a special permit under which model rocket motors and igniters have been shipped for the last 33 years. If the permit is terminated model rocket motors and igniters will no longer be able to be shipped as "Flammable Solids" and will instead have to be shipped as "Explosives." In 33 years there have been no incidents involved in the shipping and transporting of model rocket motors and igniters. The model rocket industry needs your support in order to continue to make our product available. Attached is a sample e-mail that we request you send immediately to express your support. We believe that shipping model rocket motors and igniters as "Explosives" would only cause unnecessary concern for hobby shops, educators, youth group leaders and families using model rockets for educational and recreational purposes. If you believe as we do, please send an e-mail to the Department of Transportation no later than October 10, 2011. To assist you, here is a sample e-mail: -- TO: specialpermits@xxxxxxx <mailto:specialpermits@xxxxxxx> Subject: DOT-SP 7887 Show Cause Response Dear Associate Administrator, The purpose of this e-mail is to request that DOT-SP 7887 be kept in force as written. The Special Permit, previously DOT-E 7887 has been in place since 1978 and is used by many of us who enjoy hobbies including model rockets, motors and igniters. To my knowledge, there has never been an incident involving the shipping and transporting of model rocket motors and igniters. Further I believe that shipping these products as "Explosives" will create unnecessary fear and difficulty for those handling, transporting, receiving, storing, selling and using these products. After 33 years of use, the termination of the Special Permit is unwarranted and possibly damaging to an educational and recreational product that has an excellent record. In closing, I again request the Special Permit be kept in place as written. - Your Name and Address -- Please take a few minutes to send your e-mail today! Thank you very much for your support of model rocketry. --- Sincerely, RCS, Inc. AeroTech Division 2113 W 850 N Cedar City, UT 84721 Ph: 435-865-7100 Ext. 104 Fax: 435-865-7120 Email: customerservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- ROC-Chat mailing list roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx //www.freelists.org/list/roc-chat