News as Product == Bad JuJu…
News as Service == Better JuJu… (Objective?)
From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf
Of Rick D.
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 3:43 PM
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Aliso Viejo bombing - a cautionary tale?
Let's keep the speculation to a minimum. No sense in feeding into the media
maelstrom.
All we know is what the media have reported, which, as anyone who's ever had
any connection to the media will tell you, is usually completely overblown and
full of half-truths and outright lies and speculation.
I recognize the name as a flyer I have seen before. Based solely on that, I'm
guessing that the materials they found are simply rocket motors being actively
mis-classified by the authorities and/or the media. It would definitely not be
the first time the government lied about rocket motors (remember the ATF
lawsuit we won?).
For now, let's just avoid speculation, and keep from feeding the media beast in
the interim, until the facts come out.
Cheers,
Rick Dickinson
On Thu, May 17, 2018, 3:33 PM William Lake <williamlake4@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:williamlake4@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Is he active in the community? Any knowledge of whether these are just rocket
parts, or just some crazy person?
William
On May 17, 2018, at 3:26 PM, bb.wolf2 <bb.wolf2@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:bb.wolf2@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
The 11-page complaint states that a search warrant was served at Beal's Long
Beach home, where authorities found two competed improvised explosive devices,
three firearms, as well as "precursor chemicals, energetic materials,
e-matches, variously sized cardboard and modified rocket tubes -- all known to
be chemical precursors and component parts of IEDs."
http://abc7.com/2-ieds-found-at-home-of-aliso-viejo-victims-ex-boyfriend/3488183/
Jim Wold
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From: David Erbas-White <derbas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:derbas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
Date: 5/17/18 8:18 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: ROC-CHAT <ROC-CHAT@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ROC-CHAT@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
Subject: [roc-chat] Aliso Viejo bombing - a cautionary tale?
The news this morning is reporting that Stephen Beal has been arrested
in Long Beach in connection with the potential bombing in Aliso Viejo.
According to neighbors, he is a known rocketeer...
The are charging him (apparently, and perhaps as a means of applying
pressure) with possession of an explosive device (and they're also
taking pains to point out that this is not in connection with the
bombing) - which could conceivably be an Estes A3-4T, from how it is
said that prosecutors operate...
David Erbas-White
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