I know Ruthie. I was just venting my personal opinion. As Jim said earlier, the version numbers mean nothing and they can change at any given time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "& Ruthie" <chaosynchronous@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: Window-Eyes First with Windows Vista > Duyahn, While I agree with you that win eyes is pretty cocky with this > "public beta" release and calling their software "Vista ready," the > version > numbers mean absolutely nothing. > > > Ruthie & > > No program done by an undergrad will work after she graduates. > > MSN Messenger ID: ruthie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > AOL and Yahoo Messenger ID: chaosynchronous > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Duyahn Walker" <themusicman1@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:21 PM > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: Window-Eyes First with Windows Vista > > >> You know? I never thought I'd say this but, they are being just a bit >> cocky. >> So what! There beta version is ready before JFW is? I mean, come on! >> Win-eyes is a beta and they shouldn't say that it is a fully functional >> program in my personal opinion. Beta programs do happen to have bugs in >> them. I am using a midi program and it is a beta program. I have spoken >> to >> folks at FS and have reported lots of bugs to them. Sorry if I am >> rambling >> on and am probably making no sense. I am saying that I think FS should >> get >> a >> chance. At least I can say this about Jaws. It is ahead in the numbers >> game >> as apposed to Win-Eyes. JFW is in version 8, where as Win-eyes is only in >> version 6? Um? Com on! Am I missing something here? >> >> >> Duyahn >> >> You can contact me in the following ways >> >> MSN messenger: themusicman1@xxxxxxxxx >> Yahoo messenger: themusicman_2004 >> Skype: Duyahn >> AOL instant messenger: MKnightJones >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Beach" <rbeach@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:09 PM >> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: Window-Eyes First with Windows Vista >> >> >>> Hmmm, it's about time they got it together. I remember when they were >>> trying to support Windows 3.11 when everybody else had moved on to >>> Windows 98, not 95, but 98. When asked what was taking them so long, I >>> remember a GW rep saying they didn't feel Windows 95 or 98 was stable >>> enough to work with. >>> >>> I also have an issue with a company releasing a public beta and calling >>> it "being ready on the same day." If they were going to be "ready," it >>> should be a full release. >>> >>> Just a little slight of hand marketing there, in my personal opinion. >>> >>> >>> >>> Robert Lee Beach >>> Assistive Technology Specialist >>> Kansas City Kansas Community College >>> 7250 State Avenue >>> Kansas City, KS 66112 >>> Phone: (913) 288-7671 >>> Fax: (913) 288-7678 >>> E-mail: rbeach@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> jimkc@xxxxxxxxxx 01/30/07 4:14 PM >>> >>> Window-Eyes First with Windows Vista >>> Where's FS? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: dan@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> To: gw-info@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:27 PM >>> Subject: Window-Eyes First with Windows Vista >>> >>> >>> >>> Think Window-Eyes First - This is the first time in the history of >>> computer technology, where a full-featured screen reader is ready on the >>> same day as the general release of a new operating system. No other >>> screen reader is ready. >>> >>> In July 2000 at the summer conferences GW Micro demonstrated Window-Eyes >>> reading Adobe PDF files. No other screen reader was ready. >>> >>> In September 2001 at the WCD exhibition GW Micro demonstrated >>> Window-Eyes running under Windows XP. No other screen reader was ready. >>> >>> In March 2002 at the CSUN conference GW Micro demonstrated Window-Eyes >>> version 4.2 utilizing Flash technology. No other screen reader was >>> ready. >>> >>> With the January 2003 release of version 4.21, Window-Eyes was the first >>> to implement Display Chain Management, the standard that allows >>> applications such as screen readers and screen magnifiers to co-exist >>> peacefully. No other screen reader was ready. >>> >>> In March 2003 at the CSUN conference GW Micro demonstrated Window-Eyes >>> running under Citrix MetaFrame XP, Microsoft Terminal Services and >>> Microsoft Windows XP/2003 Professional Remote Desktop. No other screen >>> reader was ready. >>> >>> When Window-Eyes 4.5 was released in September 2003 it had the first and >>> to this date the only error reporting system available in a screen >>> reader. This error reporting system improves stability and reliability, >>> which are critical to a productive, enjoyable computing experience. No >>> other screen reader was ready then and no other screen reader is ready >>> today. >>> >>> In November 2005, the release of Window-Eyes 5.5 offered full support of >>> Mozilla Firefox running DHTML applications. No other screen reader was >>> ready. >>> >>> December 4, 2006 GW Micro released Window-Eyes 6.0 with Microsoft Office >>> 2007 support and support for the new ribbon interface. No other screen >>> reader was ready. >>> >>> Today - January 30, 2007 GW Micro released a public beta version of >>> Window-Eyes that will run under the new operating system, Windows Vista. >>> This is the first time in the history of computer technology, where a >>> full-featured screen reader is ready on the same day as the general >>> release of a new operating system. No other full-featured screen reader >>> is ready. >>> >>> Think Window-Eyes First because we strive to be the First and you should >>> not have to wait. We are leading the way, just as we have for many >>> years - innovating, changing with new technology, giving you, the >>> customer the true freedom to choose the latest software when you want >>> it. >>> >>> To download a full public beta version that anyone, even non-Window-Eyes >>> users can try, go to www.gwmicro.com/beta and download your copy today. >>> >>> >>> For our clients with computers running Windows 2000, XP or 2003 Server >>> there is a separate public beta download, which includes various >>> improvements and performance enhancements. When you download your >>> version, please make certain you are choosing the correct file. >>> >>> Remember, this is a public beta version - please let us know about any >>> issues that you may find. We listen and respond to our customers and >>> our goal is to provide the finest quality screen reader possible. >>> >>> >>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>> dangerous content by KCKCC's MailScanner, and is >>> believed to be clean. >>> >>> >>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.16/660 - Release Date: >>> 1/30/2007 >>> 5:04 PM >>> >>> >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.16/660 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 > 5:04 PM > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes