Duyahn, While I agree with you that win eyes is pretty cocky with this "public beta" release and calling their software "Vista ready," the version numbers mean absolutely nothing. Ruthie & No program done by an undergrad will work after she graduates. MSN Messenger ID: ruthie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx AOL and Yahoo Messenger ID: chaosynchronous ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duyahn Walker" <themusicman1@xxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:21 PM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: Window-Eyes First with Windows Vista > You know? I never thought I'd say this but, they are being just a bit > cocky. > So what! There beta version is ready before JFW is? I mean, come on! > Win-eyes is a beta and they shouldn't say that it is a fully functional > program in my personal opinion. Beta programs do happen to have bugs in > them. I am using a midi program and it is a beta program. I have spoken to > folks at FS and have reported lots of bugs to them. Sorry if I am rambling > on and am probably making no sense. I am saying that I think FS should get > a > chance. At least I can say this about Jaws. It is ahead in the numbers > game > as apposed to Win-Eyes. JFW is in version 8, where as Win-eyes is only in > version 6? Um? Com on! Am I missing something here? > > > Duyahn > > You can contact me in the following ways > > MSN messenger: themusicman1@xxxxxxxxx > Yahoo messenger: themusicman_2004 > Skype: Duyahn > AOL instant messenger: MKnightJones > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Beach" <rbeach@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:09 PM > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: Window-Eyes First with Windows Vista > > >> Hmmm, it's about time they got it together. I remember when they were >> trying to support Windows 3.11 when everybody else had moved on to >> Windows 98, not 95, but 98. When asked what was taking them so long, I >> remember a GW rep saying they didn't feel Windows 95 or 98 was stable >> enough to work with. >> >> I also have an issue with a company releasing a public beta and calling >> it "being ready on the same day." If they were going to be "ready," it >> should be a full release. >> >> Just a little slight of hand marketing there, in my personal opinion. >> >> >> >> Robert Lee Beach >> Assistive Technology Specialist >> Kansas City Kansas Community College >> 7250 State Avenue >> Kansas City, KS 66112 >> Phone: (913) 288-7671 >> Fax: (913) 288-7678 >> E-mail: rbeach@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> jimkc@xxxxxxxxxx 01/30/07 4:14 PM >>> >> Window-Eyes First with Windows Vista >> Where's FS? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: dan@xxxxxxxxxxx >> To: gw-info@xxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:27 PM >> Subject: Window-Eyes First with Windows Vista >> >> >> >> Think Window-Eyes First - This is the first time in the history of >> computer technology, where a full-featured screen reader is ready on the >> same day as the general release of a new operating system. No other >> screen reader is ready. >> >> In July 2000 at the summer conferences GW Micro demonstrated Window-Eyes >> reading Adobe PDF files. No other screen reader was ready. >> >> In September 2001 at the WCD exhibition GW Micro demonstrated >> Window-Eyes running under Windows XP. No other screen reader was ready. >> >> In March 2002 at the CSUN conference GW Micro demonstrated Window-Eyes >> version 4.2 utilizing Flash technology. No other screen reader was >> ready. >> >> With the January 2003 release of version 4.21, Window-Eyes was the first >> to implement Display Chain Management, the standard that allows >> applications such as screen readers and screen magnifiers to co-exist >> peacefully. No other screen reader was ready. >> >> In March 2003 at the CSUN conference GW Micro demonstrated Window-Eyes >> running under Citrix MetaFrame XP, Microsoft Terminal Services and >> Microsoft Windows XP/2003 Professional Remote Desktop. No other screen >> reader was ready. >> >> When Window-Eyes 4.5 was released in September 2003 it had the first and >> to this date the only error reporting system available in a screen >> reader. This error reporting system improves stability and reliability, >> which are critical to a productive, enjoyable computing experience. No >> other screen reader was ready then and no other screen reader is ready >> today. >> >> In November 2005, the release of Window-Eyes 5.5 offered full support of >> Mozilla Firefox running DHTML applications. No other screen reader was >> ready. >> >> December 4, 2006 GW Micro released Window-Eyes 6.0 with Microsoft Office >> 2007 support and support for the new ribbon interface. No other screen >> reader was ready. >> >> Today - January 30, 2007 GW Micro released a public beta version of >> Window-Eyes that will run under the new operating system, Windows Vista. >> This is the first time in the history of computer technology, where a >> full-featured screen reader is ready on the same day as the general >> release of a new operating system. No other full-featured screen reader >> is ready. >> >> Think Window-Eyes First because we strive to be the First and you should >> not have to wait. We are leading the way, just as we have for many >> years - innovating, changing with new technology, giving you, the >> customer the true freedom to choose the latest software when you want >> it. >> >> To download a full public beta version that anyone, even non-Window-Eyes >> users can try, go to www.gwmicro.com/beta and download your copy today. >> >> >> For our clients with computers running Windows 2000, XP or 2003 Server >> there is a separate public beta download, which includes various >> improvements and performance enhancements. When you download your >> version, please make certain you are choosing the correct file. >> >> Remember, this is a public beta version - please let us know about any >> issues that you may find. We listen and respond to our customers and >> our goal is to provide the finest quality screen reader possible. >> >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by KCKCC's MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.16/660 - Release Date: >> 1/30/2007 >> 5:04 PM >> >> > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes