Initially, most builders seem to have taken Jurgen's design and tweaked it a little bit to suit their ideas, their building materials and what kind of tools they have available. Now though, if you click the pictures in the gallery, they will take you to some sites where the builders have pretty detailed plans. For the instability issue, that is primarily on downhills - there's nothing to stop you from hitting those speeds on the flat except for the engine. As for the downhills, as your finesse/coordination and riding skills improve, so will your speed. After about 650km, I could hit 60kph on a downhill and my friend is likely a little faster than that on his. Practise makes perfect, but stability can be improved with pivot angle changes. For uphlls, frankly, I am amazed at how well they climb. From riding the hills on my trikes, I need to be down around 20 gear inches for some of them, but on the python, I am up near 30 gear inches for the same hills. The pivot angle has an effect on climbing stability as well though. As you approach 60 degrees, low cadence will give you a propensity towards wheel flop(especially on steeper hills), while angles closer to 70 degrees will make lower cadences easier to control. In short though, they climb very well, and climb even better when you get good at carrying your speed from the last hill you came down. I've ridden 4 different pythons (three that I built), including two ice racing variants, but every one of them had their own distinct personality and handling "preferences". They are completely different than anything I had ever ridden and I had to learn to ride them from square one, like when I was a kid. They are very satisfying when you learn to ride them, very fast, and very comfortable. If you are into challenges, a python is for you, not only for building, but for getting riding proficiency. > Hi I've recently joined the list (Impressed by the great photos of > finished projects) with the idea of trying to make one, My question is > this.... are there any plans (like the flevo ones) or is each one each > bike an individual just built round the principles of the original with > people designing there own based on what materials they have available? > I must admit I was a little worried about the instability above 50kph > but then realised that on my own bike I get worried if I go above 45kph > downhill but it may be different on a recumbent. I live in an area with > quite a few hills how do people find them for hill climbing? > Any advice welcome > Cheers Simon ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist //www.freelists.org/list/python Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx To unsubscribe send an empty mail to python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. ============================================================