Hi Simon, simon wrote: > Hi I've recently joined the list (Impressed by the great photos of > finished projects) with the idea of trying to make one, My question is > this.... are there any plans (like the flevo ones) or is each one each > bike an individual just built round the principles of the original with > people designing there own based on what materials they have available? > I think there are some plans available for some of the variants, but the pythons are all very different. It starts with wheel sizes, continues with details how the pivot should be built, and ends in the question about handle bars: are good and if there would be on which part of the bike they should be attached. There is no silver bullet yet. You have to pick the raisins yourself. The only example of really detailed plans for a python with 26" wheels is from Daryl: http://surfin_dude.tripod.com/cycling/python/Project_Python.html > I must admit I was a little worried about the instability above 50kph > but then realised that on my own bike I get worried if I go above 45kph > downhill but it may be different on a recumbent. The last time I tried I found no problems at 55kmh on my python. It is probably a question getting used to the speed. A lot higher I would not want to go as I get worried in general I won't see all the potholes in time (because of the low seat and bad eye sight). > I live in an area with > quite a few hills how do people find them for hill climbing? > There is a lot of diversity between the different python geometries, and I believe we all have little experience outside our own projects/geometries (I never tried large wheel size pythons except for Torben's bike which was definitly to big for me). IMO each of us can really only talk about his own bike. Comparing my own flevo (20" flevo racer <-> 20" python) the python clearly wins for climbing. I attribute this to the lower CG (no slipping of the front wheel) and the larger angle of the pivot (60 on mine instead of 45 on flevo). In general I find that my python handles easier than my own flevo. But do not expect a miracle, the python is feet steered, and will always be a "special" bike demanding a lot from the rider. (I did more then 20.000km on my own flevo, and much less on my python as I am not more commuting to work (but still several thousands)). Dirk ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist //www.freelists.org/list/python Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx To unsubscribe send an empty mail to python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. ============================================================