Dear Mr. Rhisiart Gwilym: I am seventy now and had the same experience as you had. Although I really admire the python riders,I gave up practicing anyway. I am riding my python trike for two years now. I like it much. I think the geometry of my trike is ok. I have gone through all different road surface and all weather. I climbed quit steep hills. The traction was enough. It is an enjoyment riding on ice because the surface is very smooth! Jinlin Wen 2009/10/29 Rhisiart Gwilym <Rhisiart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Hi Pythonauts! > > This bruised and strained learner-rider needs a bit of advice. > > My learning-curve on my Python bike is going pretty much as other > Pythonauts have described their first attempts to ride. But I have a small > problem. It's called 'old age': Every time that I fall off, or when I'm > pushing wildly with my stretched fingertips against the ground to prevent an > imminent fall, I seem to bruise or strain something. (Can scarcely type this > morning because of a strained right hand) > > I guess it doesn't happen so easily to younger, more elastic bodies. Nor do > the resulting minor injuries take so long to get painless, then heal. ('I > was that way once myself', he mused sadly....) > > So -- ruefully -- I think that I have to bring forward the trike back-end > for my Python, which I planned to build anyway, as an alternate for the > single-wheel back-end. As well as avoiding the slightly worrying build up of > little bodily problems from trying to stay on my Python for more than thirty > metres (the struggle is also AMAZINGLY hard work; I'm sweating and panting > within a minute or two of starting a practice session) I'm also concerned > that it's going to take me a long time to get fluent enough at riding the > bike to be able to go on the road in traffic. But I want to be able to use > my Python this Winter, rather than my conventional bike. I keep no car, and > I ride right through the year, as my main form of personal transport, but I > had a couple of near-miss worrying incidents last Winter with my standard > bike on icy roads. > > Besides this, I've designed into my version of the Python front end > provision to be able to put a minimal all-weather John-Tetz-style zote-foam > fairing onto it, or a fitted spandex cape at least, so that I can ride in > heavy rain. Done a few lash-up experiments with this already, and I'm pretty > confident that it'll work, even in gusty cross-winds. > > So, everything seems to be pointing towards a trike set-up, at least until > I'm fluent enough with my Python-steering reflexes. > > That leads me to ask for some advice: I notice that some trikes have their > back wheels set behind the rider's seat, whilst some have them set well > forward, almost level with the rider. So how does the placing of the back > wheels affect the percentage of the overall weight carried by the > front-wheel -- **and how, therefore, is the crucial traction on > wet/steep/gravelly surfaces affected?** This is my key question. > > My Python, like my other bikes, will have to be a serious work-horse, able > to carry freight, and able to handle any weather conditions and any surface, > on or off road. I notice that Henk's trike is a serious load-carrier, and > Wen's seems to be pretty good too, and snow-capable. > > Any advice/experience from other Pythonauts about the best way to design my > trike back end for this spec. is very welcome. > > I should say too that, despite being in the thick of ironing out the > wrinkles at the moment, I really LOVE this bike, even though I can't stay on > it yet. I can see it becoming my number one personal transport rig > hereafter. Once again: thanks and respect, Jurgen, for the trail-blazing. > Plenty of times the past few days I might have thought: 'I've made a big > mistake here. This bike isn't rideable,' if I didn't know -- from the videos > and the listees' accounts of their early adventures -- that that's not so. > With that vital knowledge, I persisted, and already I can see progress in > staying balanced and moving forward. But bloody hell I'm all bruises and > strains, even though I've been practising on short, soft turf. > > Diolch yn fawr/danke schon/many thanks for all advice, Rhisiart G > ============================================================ > > This is the Python Mailinglist > > //www.freelists.org/list/python > > Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an empty mail to python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. > > ============================================================ > >