[python] Re: Python vs. Flevo
- From: Dirk Bonne <dirk_bonne@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:23:11 +0200
Jürgen Mages wrote:
Hello Dirk,
But after a while the legs (somehow) learned to compensate pedalling
disturbances. This I experienced both on the flevo, and now on the
python.
How would you describe your flevo and python riding
experiences?
What is your motivation to use either the one or the other?
Well the flevo is lying disassembled on the attic, so.... i probably
forgot how to ride the flevo :-)
The python is my main bicycle. Only for small trips I prefer to use my
upright cycle ---imo, never ever will a recumbent be able to compete
with a upright in very short city trips, pavement up and down sort of
trips.
The reason to use the python is that it is lighter, handles at least as
good, is way cooler, and may be above all, its simply my new baby. I
can't see a reason to use both the flevo racer and the python. The
riding experience of both are simular enough.
Positive python experiences I can think of :
* Not once I have the front wheel slipping on the python until now. On
my flevo this occurred often uphill with grint lying on the road.
* I have click pedals, but often I ride with normal shoes. I have
slipped from both pedals when it is wet. On the flevo the bike gets
immediatly out of control (frontpart flops). On the python the bike
stays straight, time enough to get the feet back on.
* I can turn easilier shorter on the python. Because of the rubber block
on the flevo, i had trouble pushing the front part down enough.
* climbing is takes much less concentration effort. It is easier to keep
the bike straight.
Negative experiences:
* I see less, because of the low sitting position. It feels sometimes
unsafe, especially when confronted with these oversized family cars that
are build high. I tend to stick my hand upright in certain manouvers
because I am afraid that I will be overlooked otherwise.
* ankling --okay, this is not a python problem. But in the weekend I
exagerated riding a little, and got trouble with one foot. I blame,
apart from the too long tour, the smaller cranks. the smaller cranks
mean that I turn te feet more often, and thus the achilles rubs more often.
As you might know, I have little flevobike and lots of airbike
experience. During the P1 time, I rode them both, but later
I stripped the good airbike components to build up P3.
Sometimes I miss the downhill stability of the airbike, but in
general, velocity and comfort of the python is superior.
I have actually not yet experienced that problem downhill. May be I just
didn't go quick enough yet.
Out of principle I stopped having speedometers on my bikes, it is a more
relaxed way of riding. I don't like to be monitored while riding,
especially not by my self (I am of the worst kind). But I am willing to
install one, in the name of science ;-), and try it out and go as quick
as i can downhill.
Just a thought: You are actually going downhill hands off. On my flevo I
would never have dared that at 60km/h. At high speed the bike feels "to
loosely connected". The same on the python. Maybe I do not experience
any problems like you describe because of the steering handle. The arms
damp any disturbances away.
If I am faster on my python, I really don't know. Why would my python be
faster then my flevo? The relation seat/BB is about the same. I only sit
a little lower (but not all that much lower).
Additionally people tend to find a lowracer way cooler than
a higher recumbent and I enjoy their reactions when
they see me ;-)
Thats the main thing! ;-D
Dirk
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