[pure-silver] Re: tmx 3200 problem

  • From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:12:53 -0800


----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Nelson" <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:51 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: tmx 3200 problem


T-max 1:4 for 9.5 mins in a Jobo seemed right on the money to me despite the frame # marking densities. The image densities belie that appearance anyway but thanks for throwing out some ideas.

I just spoke to Kodak professional folks and despite the info of the film emulsion # and batch # of my tmax developer they don't jump at the opportunity to send a replacement batch as we might get from any other retailer/manufacturer. The only info they offered was to try the farmer reducer method laid out by Sexton or re-wash and use a sponge to try to wipe it off, neither of which is a workable method for multiple rolls of film in my opinion.

In mentioning to them the citric/fixer combo which is mentioned in several places on the interweb, and the chemistry/film expert I spoke to said, 'welllll, citric is a good chelater of iron...' He didn't seem to think it would work but didn't say directly that it wouldn't.

The only prevention 'cures' offered were to make sure the tanks are clear of silver deposits or to use tmax RS instead of regular tmax developer. I recently ran Kodak Developer System cleaner (chromate/sulphuric) through all my tanks and reels so I doubt that is an issue.


I don't know who runs Kodak's pro contact service now but I think they have lost touch. The rapid fixer with citric acid is a Kodak recommendation and is in one of their publications. Its a better choice than weak Farmer's because it is very weak and stands less chance of ruining the image. T-Max developer is not recommended for sheet films due to dichroic fog. I have no idea why it should produce it on sheet film and not roll film. The RS version has a silver cheating agent in it but I also think it is a different formula. The RS means Replenished System since it is designed for self-replenishing in such applications as photo-finishing. Since both are proprietary its hard to know. The MSDS are not helpful. While it is possible the developer is causing the blotching I think more testing is needed. I suggest doing at least a clip test to see if it comes out with the stain.
   Overall, Xtol is probaby a better developer than T-Max.

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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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