----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Gaylen" <mgaylen@xxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:29 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: tank and tray cleaner > that was the recipe I had. How many grams would be more > appropriate? > > On Sep 21, 2004, at 8:31 AM, Richard Knoppow wrote: > >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matthew Gaylen <mgaylen@xxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sep 21, 2004 6:07 AM >> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: tank and tray cleaner >> >> Turns out you can purchase sulphuric acid from some folks >> without a >> hazmat charge where some folks must charge an extra $20. >> And some folks >> require a DEA registration. I went so far as to leave a >> message with >> the field office in Chicago--but they never called me >> back. >> >> Anyway, I have about 3 lifetime supplies of tank and tray >> cleaner >> consisting of 8 grams potassium dichromate mixed with 96 >> ml sulphuric >> acid and 900 ml distilled water. >> >> Kills developer tray stains on contact. >> >> Contact me off list if you want a liter. >> >> Best, >> >> joe suburbs the post modern hyper rural sub urban anti >> hero and >> vertiginous surrealist >> >> Only 8 grams of dichromate? >> >> >> >> Richard Knoppow >> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Los Angeles, CA, USA The formula for Kodak TC-1 is typical. Sulfuric Acid, concentrated 90.0 ml Potassium dichromate 96.0 grams Water to make 1.0 liter Other versions specify 90 grams of dichromate so I suspect the amounts are not critical. The cleaner can be diluted 1:1 for some purposes and can be reused many times. It probably can be reused until it doesn't bleach out the stains well. Another tray/equipment cleaner is Kodak TC-2, especially recommended for removing silver stains. Kodak TC-2 Solution A Water 1.0 liter Potassium Permanganate 5.0 grams Sulfuric Acid, concentrated 10.0 ml Solution B Water 1.0 liter Sodium Bisulfite 10.0 grams To use pour solution A into the tray and allow to remain for a few minutes with agitation. Then rinse with water and replace with Solution B until the stain is removed. Then wash thoroughly in water. To dissolve the Permanganate use a small volume of very hot water (180F or 82C). Stir vigorously until throroughly dissolved. Then dilute the volume with cold water. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.