Thanks Richard. Well, I know the fix is good since I had only run 4 rolls thru that 1/2 gallon. It's good for 30 tmax rolls or 60 rolls of non-tgrain film (supposedly according to Kodak spec sheet). I'll try tmax rs for the balance and see what I can do to remove the sludge off the neg. How much citric is added to how much fix? Is it added to fix w/hardener or without? Thanks! ________________________________ From: Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 9:46:07 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: odd neg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Nelson" <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:16 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: odd neg > The upper left is the shooter's fault so it could be the bellows, gobo, or > just something in the room. No idea on the age of the film or any way to > find out. If I assume the box it was sent to me in is what it came from, the > date on that is 9/09, so it's slightly out of date. > > I hope I can clean this cr_p off there! Any suggestions? I think I have just > used dish soap and water in the past when something weird like this has > appeared and rubbed it 'tween the digits. > > Would tmax rs be a better bet for the balance or d76? > > eric > I don't think its the film and developer combination. The Plus-X I had trouble with was very old and did the same thing with both D-76 and Rodinal, about as different as you can get. I just don't know what caused this. My suggestion is to refix in fresh fixer to see if it makes any difference. If it appears to be dichroic fog try the fixer-citric acid bleach. Be careful of it, although its mild it can reduce the image silver if applied too long. Dichroic fog is extremely finely devided silver so will be bleached out in preference to the much coarser grains of the image. If its neither I am stumped. Another point, how much effect does this have on the prints? Perhaps its not worth trying to get rid of especially since any treatment has the risk of damaging the image. -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.