-----Original Message----- >From: Janet Cull <jcull@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Jun 4, 2008 4:56 AM >To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [pure-silver] Re: fixer question - wash water xchg rate > > >On Jun 3, 2008, at 6:13 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote: > >> The use of a sulfite wash aid will reduce both paper and film wash >> times by a factor of about six times. > > >Is that what hypo-clearing agent is? > It is at least what Kodak Hypo Clearing Agent and Ilford Wash Aid are. KHCA is buffered to neutral because at that pH the hardening of hardening fixing baths is not destroyed as it is by high pH alkaline baths and because the swelling of most photographic gelatin is minimum there. Kodak did extensive research in the early 1960's as part of a project to find out why sea water was so much more efficient at washing than fresh water, an effect known since around 1900. It was well known that an alkali bath would accelerate washing but just being alkaline was not as effective as sea water. Kodak researchers found out that the sulfites had an ion exchange effect with hypo. That is, the sulfite ions displaced thiosulfate ions forcing them out of the emulsion while being very easily washed out themselves. Ion exchangers are used for water softening and many other processes. Sulfites were found to be significantly more effective than other ions for thiosulfate although some others have some effect. This ion exchange effect makes wash aid followed by a fresh water wash even more efficient than sea water for washing. In addition material washed in sea water must receive a final wash in fresh water to remove the halides in the sea water which otherwise will rapidly attack the image. Gelatin is amphoretic, that is it has the peculiar property of not being either acid or alkaline but having properties of both and taking on the pH of the last bath it was treated in. However, it does have a sort of preferred pH. This is the isoelectric point. This is where the ionic charges in the molecules just neutralize each other. One measure of the isoelectric point is the swelling of the gelatin. When in a pH above or below the isoelectric point the gelatin will swell. The swelling when wet is minimum at the isoelectric point. The charges also change depending on the pH. Both thiosulfate ions and those of the fixer reaction products, that is the silver-thiosulfate complexes formed by the fixing action, have an electric charge. Where the net charge of the gelatin is opposite of these the ions will be attracted and bound to the gelatin making them very hard to remove. By moving the pH to the alkaline side of neutral the charges are changed to being the same polarity as the unwanted ions so that they are repelled thus helping the washing action. Because most photographic gelatin has an isoelectric point just a bit on the acid side of neutral treating it in a neutral pH bath will set up the right internal charges to help remove the thiosulfate and reaction product ions. The same will be accomplished by a strongly alkaline bath but that is not necessary and there are some advantages to keeping the pH near neutral. One as stated is that the hardening action is preserved. Another is that the diffusion path is minimized by the minimal swelling of the gelatin. The gelatin is also less vulnerable to mechanical damage in this condition. There is another reason to get the gelatin to neutral or alkaline: this is the binding of the thiosulfate and reaction products by the aluminum hardener used in most fixing baths. When in the acid condition the hardener acts as a mordant and sticks the hypo and silver complex ions pretty tightly to the gelatin and image silver. By moving out of the window of pH where this happens the bond is broken. As it happens the bond is no longer effective at neutral pH even though the hardening remains. Kodak wash aid consists of sodium sulfite with sodium bisulfite (or metabisulfite, they are the same in solution) as the buffer. It also has two sequestering agents, sodium citrate and EDTA tetra-sodium salt, to prevent the deposit of carbonates in the wash water and aluminum carbonate from the hardener onto the surface of the material being treated. I can't tell from the MSDS for Ilford wash aid if it is buffered, it well may be but the constituents of the Kodak product are well known so I stick with it. -- Richard Knoppow dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Los Angeles, CA, USA ============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.