DEAR RICHARD, Please give us your take on this: I know that pin holes occur from the interaction of a carbonate (e.g. sodium) with acid, like the acetic acid stop bath, but I also thought that this we very temperature dependent. When using a developer-stop bath process, I have always processed at 68-70 F and have never experienced pin holes with the 8 different films I have used over the years. I mostly use PMK with a water rinse and this is a non issue with this dev but there are times I want the effect of other devs. I recall a student who said that I was being compulsive to insist that he process at 68-70 F using D-76 and stop bath. He said he didn't want to spend the time and money keeping his darkroom cool and cooling the solns before processing. He insisted that he could just adjust the dev times and process at 80 F or higher. Well, his rolls of 120 negs looked like they had been shot with birdshot...so many tiny clear holes, they were all ruined. A rather expensive lesson he will never forget. CHEERS! BOB -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Daneliuk Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 12:40 PM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Jean-David Beyer Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Weird Film Issue On 05/07/2012 10:58 AM, Jean-David Beyer wrote: > Tim Daneliuk wrote: <SNIp> > So if you are going to get pin holing _after processing_, from where > would the carbonate come? Would there be any left after the film was in > the stop bath and the (usually) acid fixing bath? > > It seems to me that unless you are using an alkaline processing > technique, you should be safe to put a little acid in a post hypo-clear > rinse if you think it is necessary to clear hardness from the film. > Ah, sorry, I was referring to it only in the context as a stop bath. I acknowledge that the pinholing risk even there is small these days, I just don't feel like recalibrating my workflow. In a running water stop, development continues briefly, whereas it pretty much stops immediately in contact with an acid stop bath. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk ============================================================================ ================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7120 (20120508) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.