[pure-silver] Re: Weird Film Issue

  • From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 08:58:00 -0700


----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrienne Moumin" <photowonder2010@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Pure Silver" <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 6:07 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Weird Film Issue



Just finished a marathon week or so processing 30+ rolls of 120 film, by hand in 2- and 3-roll Jobo tanks.
Experienced a weird phenomenon, not sure what or why:
Taking the dried film down, I noticed in random areas a slight "film," and some beads of dried chemistry (?), on the non-emulsion side, as though from too-little diluted Photo-Flo (even though I use just a tiny amount). Last couple of tanks yesterday, I decided to omit the last step Photo-Flo, and just hang the film after the final 10-minute wash. Discovered this morning, the mysterious film and line of dried "beads" is there on 3 of the 5 rolls - even worse than before! Random dried liquid splashes and splotches all down the length of the rolls, a total mess. The only saving grace is that they are on the non-emulsion side. I will re-reel and rinse them thoroughly in warmed distilled water while sending out prayers to the universe that this will remedy the problem; I am wondering whether this is something I will have to do from now on at the end of the processing procedure?
I would welcome any suggestions from anyone in the group.
Thanks in advance,Adrienne Moumin

Adrienne Moumin
Handmade B&W photographs and photo-collages: www.picturexhibit.com

If this is is from hard water as suggested by some it will help to use either distilled water or boiled water as a final rinse. Boiling for a few minutes and allowing the water too cool will remove much hardness. A rinse consisting of a combination of Photo-Flo and alcohol works better than Photo-Flo alone. For a liter of rinse use about an ounce of 70% rubbing alcohol and half a capful (about 2.5 ml) of Photo-Flo, about half the recommended amount. Let the film soak in this for about two minutes and hang up to dry without squeegeeing. Squeegeeing can cause scratches if there is any grit on the surface. The emulsion and anti-halation coating will be relatively soft because they are wet, especially if a non-hardening fixer has been used so will be quite vulnerable to scratching. The film with the marks can be soaked in a acetic acid stop bath, swab with coton balls if necessary, then washed for a couple of minutes and treated in the above wetting agent.

I am not quite convinced this is due to hard water. Since the film was processed in multiple roll tanks were the rolls with marks from the same tanks? Was there anything else they migh have in common?


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
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