Bob: You are so right. There are two types of police departments. Fraternal and professional. Fraternal, or uncle Ned is the Sheriff, used to be the dominant form. Not any more. With the advent of attorneys and litigation the professional departments are growing in number. However, this growth isn't uniform, universal, or very fast. I used to train cops. My observations indicated that Some agencies deliberately screen out the "smart ones." (real shock too) I was the only person in my section to have any sort of college. I hold 3 degrees. They were forced to hire me by a federal judge. Our leader, the niece of uncle Ned, remarked to a federal inspector that our training section had three Captains and three college degrees (Implication was One degree for each trainer). She wasn't telling any fibs either. Her degree was in Drama, she could act like she knew what she was doing. She really could act. Even now, 20+ years later I can't help but sit in shock and awe at what was done and passed off as euridite wisdom. We were a "professional agency" go ahead ask around. Yep, we was progressive because all of our graduates had an i.g. I now teach special education which is pretty close to police academy. I still worry about who has the Live Ammunition. Back then I had a Leica M-2 which I carried on my right shoulder, under my jacket. On my left shoulder I had an S&W model 39 in a bianci shoulder rig. On some days I had to make a hard choice of which millimeter should be deployed, the 9 or the 35. Now I carry a Bessa R-2 which is a splendid 35mm. the 9mm was turned in and exchanged for a white beard and a gut. Think Santa in shorts. Concerning photos of no go places, use a 500mm mirror lens, and keep an attorney on retainer. The basic rule for a beat cop continues to be: "Keep a clean beat!" be well. baba ____________________________________________________________ Health Plans From $50/mo. Compare Low-Cost Health Plans Online. Blue Cross, Aetna and more. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c33780e1fa8f18fa3cst06duc ============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.