Some nice effects can be obtained: the prints (13*18 cm) are grainless, and have a special quality, on one hand the DOF with 40 asa film, hand held is quite small, but there is a also something with the contrast: it looks to me that the midtones are "streched out" at the expense of shadow separation, and the highlights get blown out easy, so on first glance the prints look high contrast, but OTOH the midtones separate quite nice. For example my kids have some minor freckles which realy gets exaggerated in the prints.. Stand development works quite well with little tendency to streak if more neutral developers are used such as Xtol at 1+5 or 1+7 for 30-45 min. Rodinal is very high pH and, even diluted, tends to be too reactive in highly exposed areas. I have a friend that uses stand development exclusively with everything from 35mm up to 4X5 with great success. He uses a very dilute, low sulfite (5gm/L) PC developer at pH 8.3 and has no streaking problems. His times vary from 30-60 minutes depending on the film and EI. JB PS- I use semi-stand (is that like semi-pregnant?) where I agitate for the first 30 sec and then one inversion very gently every 3-4 min thereafter using the same developer and about half the times he does. JB ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.