Hi Bob, Thanks for the quick feedback. I am pretty ignorant on cars, sound like a lot of trouble..;-).. There are alternatives: the traditional one is to have a window in the box covered with ruby lith, which you than point to a bright lit area outside, but I work in my trunk, so I figured that that might not always be handy. Naively I thought why than not use my car battery... I'll look into red bicycle lights or something running on batteries next, Thanks, Cor -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Younger Sent: donderdag 26 november 2009 10:23 To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Now this really an Off Topic question.. Cor, There are too many variables to answer that question (age of battery, size, size of bulb, remaining charge on battery, temperature......). But to solve the problem; get a second battery and a battery isolator. It will prevent your primary starting battery from draining other than to start the car, while providing power to your red light and other accessories from the secondary battery. It will then allow the car's charging system to charge both batteries. You can buy the parts yourself and install them; or have a mechanic install them. There is another device (and hence, alternative) on the market that monitors how much charge remains in your battery and prevents you from draining it beyond the point that it has sufficient power to start your car. Bob Younger -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of C.Breukel@xxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:11 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Now this realy an Off Topic question.. I have this really off topic question, there is a faint connection to pure silver though..;-).. Since a year or so I am quite heavy into wet plate collodion photography, I'll spare you the details, but basically you prepare and process a light sensitive plate with silver halides (see pure silver..;-)..) in the field. After exposure plates have to be developed immediately, so you need a what is called a darkbox. Since the emulsion is only sensitive to blue and a bit of green light you can work under red light. I am building this box in my car. Now my question is: how long can you run a low wattage (red) bulb from your car battery before you drain said battery and are unable to start the car again? Thanks, Best, Cor ====================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ======================================================================== ===================================== To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.