[pure-silver] Re: Need some help and ideas

  • From: "Mike Kirwan" <mkirwan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 13:48:55 -0700

I feel your pain J

 

I have been working through my negative archive and have found a solution that 
works for me, but will you will need Photoshop CS6 and the latest version of 
ACR (7.2 Beta).

 

I scan with an Epson V700 with the standard Epson Film Holders (4x5 and 120) 
and make some shims to raise the holder about 1mm to get a more accurate focus. 
Made a big difference for me.

 

I am careful to set the histogram to ensure that there is no clipping in the 
highlights and shadows – then scan as 48bit RGB TIF’s. Once scanned I open the 
folder with Bridge and then right-click and Open in Camera RAW. I use the 
develop setting to fine tune exposure and contrast as well as the Highlight and 
Shadow controls. It is amazing how much highlight and shadow recovery is 
possible. Then I go the Detail Tab, I might apply some sharpening, but usually 
not, but the noise control work really well. Does not need much a setting 
around 20 plus or minus works well for me. Set the view to 100% to see the 
effect. Then I bring into Photoshop to finish off and sharpen for printing. 
Just printed a 20x24 image from a 6x7 Ilford FP4 negative and it looks great. 
For web images you could get away with less noise reduction as the image size 
is so small

 

I have been so pleased with the technique I have been shooting much more film 
for my personal work. Have gotten used to folks staring at my ancient RB67 and 
Wista Field Camera, but who cares, and yes the grain is supposed to be there

 

Mike

 

From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 1:32 PM
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pure-silver] Need some help and ideas

 

Though I know its off topic here, and unless the moderator oks on list replies, 
email off list so we don't flood the email boxes of those that do not desire 
this type of email.

 

My problem is that I have a lot of old black and white negatives that must be 
digitized (I know the dreaded D word)  You can not make a paper print available 
on the web.  Yet I have been unhappy with the scans I have been getting.  I 
seem to be getting a lot of noise ie grain look  I really don't want to spend a 
bunch of money on a scanner at this point.  At some point there might not be a 
choice, but looking for other alternatives.

 

My reason for posting this here is I believe many of you have likely had the 
same issue, and if you haven't the odds are you will at some point.

 

What I have tried is Noise Ninja.  Good program, but when I upgraded photoshop 
to CS5 it stopped working and must rebuy it to get it to work with the upgrade. 
 Haven't yet, but its something I have considered

 

I haven't had any luck with the noise reduction in CS5.  It may be me not doing 
the right things however.  Noise Ninja had everything more or less automated. 
There are tons of tutorials out there, most of them free.  Of those most of 
them are worth exactly what you pay for them.  If I paid for training Lynda 
might be the way I would go.  Adobe probably has some good stuff, especially 
Julianne Kost, but right now I am mad enough at them that I don't want to give 
them a nickel unless I absolutely have to, and though occasionally I get forced 
into spending money with Adobe its a last resort.  I'm not there yet.   If 
anyone has found a good tutorial in the free ones, I'd appreciate it.

 

Has anyone found any software that they liked that beats Noise Ninja???  There 
may be better ways that I haven't considered

 

It may be just my experience, but scanners seem to have much more trouble 
handling black and white film than color film.  The color scans almost always 
seem to look better.  Thanks for any help in advance and please reply off list 

 

Mark

 

 

 

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