[pure-silver] Re: Mystery lines?

  • From: "EJ Neilsen" <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:02:54 -0500

How do you mix up your solutions? It is always best to perform your
dilutions before it gets in the tray. Your lines sound like poorly developed
paper by have a too dilute developer; either by temp being too low, solution
strength too dilute not mixed well or both. 

Are you making one print at a time? Or batching them back to back ? 


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thorns
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:12 AM
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Mystery lines?
> 
> Though the trays do have troughs (they are old Paterson trays), the
> lines are not straight and vary from print to print.  Sometimes a
> wavy line, sometimes a line that turns back in a U - orientation
> changes. Lines are about 2-3mm in width.
> 
> 
> >Did you  say that the density irregularities were in the same place in
> the
> >prints--like along the lengthwise features of your trays? Or maybe I
> missed
> >something along the way.   ---H.
> >>
> >>>  Well the final resolution is rather odd.
> >>>
> >>>  I mixed up twice as much LPD and still got the density
> >>>  marks.
> >>>
> >>>  I opened a new box of paper. Same marks.
> >>>
> >>>  Walked thru everything with safelights out to look for
> >>>  static or light leaks - nothing.
> >>>
> >>>  I scrubbed out the dev tray, and mixed up some Agfa
> >>>  Neutol. Seemed to improve the situation (density marks
> >>>  were much smaller and fainter), but still a few marks.
> >>>
> >>>  I should mention that the fixer I was using is something
> >>>  new to me (Silvergrain Clearfix Alkaline Fixer).
> >>>
> >>>  I was also using a very fast rinse in the stop bath (Kodak
> >>>  Indicator) - just 10-15 seconds.
> >>>
> >>>  I mixed up some Ilford Rapid Fix and lengthened my
> >>>  time/agitation in the stop bath and voila - marks are
> >>>  gone. Made another 15 11x14s from various negs and had no
> >>>  re-occurance of the mystery marks.
> >>>
> >>>  Now, maybe, I changed other things and don't realize it,
> >>>  but, I never would have thought that the fixer could have
> >>>  anything to do with density marks(!?!?)
> >>
> >>  I wonder if the fixing was complete. Test one of the
> >>  prints with Kodak Selenium toner diluted 1:9. If there is
> >>  any residual silver or silver complex in the print it will
> >>  stain yellow or brown.
> >>
> >>  ---
> >>  Richard Knoppow
> >>  Los Angeles, CA, USA
> >>  dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
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