----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryuji Suzuki" <rs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 3:21 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Here's one for the head scratchers > From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Here's one for the head > scratchers > Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:01:52 -0800 > >> Modern emulsions contain additives for the purpose of >> reducing or eliminating pressure effects. > > What kinds of compounds are you talking about? > > I add nothing to my emulsions for this purpose but I don't > get > pressure effects. Of course I handle my materials > carefully, but even > if I give some pressure with fingers and nails, the worst > that happend > to me is blotting of processing solution to the paper base > with some > paper stock, appearing darker while wet, or damage to the > emulsion > before getting any developed area due to pressure. > > A retired Kodak emulsion expert told me that some old > products using > halide conversion were so highly pressure sensitive and > the technology > was abandoned. This type of technology is also described > in Keller, > but the sentence is written in past tense, though it > doesn't say it > was abandoned. Some of my formulae use that technology, > and they work > very well in my hand. I don't know why. The chloride paper > print on > the pure-silver weblog (photolog) is made that way with > 20% bromide in > the shell after precipitating 100% chloride core. > > -- > Ryuji Suzuki > "Keep a good head and always carry a light camera." I don't remember anymore where I read this but it must have been one of the standard references. pressure effects are well known so there must be a fairly large body of papers written about them or mentioning them. You have a much better access to this stuff than I do and would also probably understand a lot of the more advanced research which is beyond me except in a very general way. Since the understanding of latent image formation has changed over the years its likely that the understanding of pressure effects has also. I know this has been a problem for certain printing papers in the past and some special purpose emulsions. It is possible that some anti-foggants may be effective. One reason for the inclusion of Potassium Iodide in some X-Ray developers is to reduce the effects of fogging from mechanical causes such as surface abrasion. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.