Question:::: On whose (manufacturer) RC paper are theses "stains" appearing. Would like to hear from everyone that has seen this. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandor Mathe To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:21 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: FW: Re: What happend? CORRECTION There must be a significant chemical difference between the pure white borders and the light grey areas when it comes to forming the pinkish or golden brown stain. I have some prints where the brown stain follows the density contours in the image exactly (like a posterization line) slightly darker grey areas are not affected and white areas are not affected. It almost always seems to be the lightest grey areas that are effected. Again I have never seen this with my fibre prints, only RC. Did my darkroom care change that much when I switched to exclusively fibre paper for all display prints? Or is it completely due to using a two bath fix process, which I always use with fibre prints. I don't know. My stained prints are all at least 7 years old. Sandor pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 06/29/2006 07:58:38 AM: > I suddenly realised my test was not complete: I only tesed the white > borders, so I also put some 1+9 KRST on the golden borwn coloured area, > and sure enough: a bright red stained spot appeared (which could be > wipped of easily), so it's inadequate fixing after all, and through some > "funny agitation" the borders are still white (somehow I find this hard > to believe: the white borders arearound the grey , now brown sky and > there is an abslute sharp border between both colours) > > Best, > > Cor > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Breukel, C. (HKG) > > Sent: donderdag 29 juni 2006 13:42 > > To: 'pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > > Subject: RE: [pure-silver] Re: What happend? > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > > > > > It could still be incomplete fixing. Some methods of > > > agitation will cause more flow at the edges of a print than > > > others. This can also be true of washing. The blotchy effect > > > sounds like insufficent fixing to me. > > > One way to find out is to test the print using either the > > > sodium sulfide test or the Selenium toner test. The Selenium > > > test is simply a solution of KRST diluted 1 part toner to 9 > > > parts water. > > > > > > Place a drop of either solution on a clear area of the > > > print or film. Leave for a minute or two and blot off. There > > > should be no visible stain. > > > > > > I just did above test with KRST 1+9, no visible stain (the print was > > untoned) > > > > I got offlist an JPEG which npretty much showed the same phenomena, > golden > > brown colour in a small "grey-zone", only on a partculair size of > paper > > > > Best, > > > > Cor